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NVidia GeForce RTX 40 Series | RTX 4090 4080Ti 4080 4070 | Discussion

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by Azzan, Jul 10, 2021.

  1. Elchupacabraj

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    Those aorus 30xx bricks had 2 X hdmi 2.1, there were a few out there.
     
  2. rg144

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    those aorus bricks you're talking about is what I REALLY need right now but no-one is bloody selling!

    All RTX 30xx cars that have 2x HDMI ports are all HDMI 2.1, even the low-end 3050's (i.e Asus).
    Its only the Aorus that has 3 HDMI's (where 1 is HDMI 2.0b)
     
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  4. rg144

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    there is one.
    But you lose VRR/Gsync support as no adaptors can handle 4k @ 120Hz w/VRR.

    Am trying next week. Have heard 50/50 on whether they're solid or painful (requiring reconnecting/issues going into standby/changing resolutions/refresh rates etc etc)
     
  5. HobartTas

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    I tend to agree because as I understand it these cards are just a die shrink with 60% more transistors so therefore 60% more cores/shaders and so on in which case you can extrapolate performance just on that alone as I'm reasonably sure there's no major technological leap in there except for perhaps minor enhancements.

    The biggest issue with these cards is supposedly 600 watt power consumption, 3.5-slot heatsinks and 2 kg+ graphics cards so considering I recently upgraded to a 1440p monitor with a RTX3080 I'm in no hurry to upgrade again just to have the same setup running at 4K. Maybe the 5000 series might be the first upgrades to consider and give the 4000 series a miss like people did with the 2000 ones given they weren't much faster than 1000 series and if you enabled ray tracing the performance tanked.
     
  6. pH@tTm@N

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    I think RedGamingTech said he thinks the improvement is the marketing usual of worst case to best case. There is meant to be another big increase in ray tracing perf, possible similar to AMD infinity cache, clock increases, but pure shading may only be the usual increase.
     
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    NVidia RTX 4090 Specs Price & Release Date - 03/04/22

    "Nvidia rtx 4090 specs have just been leaked and we are looking at a massive GPU that hungers for power. It is presumed to be a couple of times faster than the 3090TI while still using the same PCB design. In this video, we break down the rumor pile surrounding the RTX 4090 to give you a detailed idea of what to expect from it."

    I guess this video is like a compilation of the recent leaks:
    RTX4090 could be ~600W TDP @ ~0:45
    But still using GDDR6X VRAM @ ~0:40 - one of the leaks I read recently suggested that 4090 will use GDDR7 VRAM & I think that's gonna be the case at least for the high-end RTX 40 series.. obviously better performance but that'll also make the card more expensive.
    RTX4090 could be ~2kg! @ ~1:40 - not surprising cos even RTX2080Ti Lightning Z was almost 2kg.
     
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  8. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    Thanks, decided to wait for the next gen gpu and purchase with dual HDMI ports.....hopefully around the time I grab maybe a C2 42" oled :thumbup:
     
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  9. SnooP-WiggleS

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    Looks plausible. The only thing I don't think lovelace will launch with any GDDR7 parts. Samsung hasn't even launched their GDDR6+ chips yet. I suspect we'll see faster GDDR6x (Micron) and GDDR6+ (Samsung) used for the initial launch at around 24gbps bandwidth, and GDDR7 for a super or ti refresh a year after that. At 600w I'd want liquid cooling as the standard, ideally do it similar to what AMD did with vega (otherwise a rubbish gpu), air cooled models are 350-400w TDP and liquid cooled 600w TDP, lower temps will help get higher boost clocks to compete with RDNA3 as well.
    https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-next-gen-ddr6-gddr6-memory-solutions-twice-as-fast/
     
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  10. Elmf

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    If more stock liquid cooled GPUs hit the market it will also change the case market I think! That'd be interesting
     
  11. Sledge

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    So what's the claim on pricing atm?
     
  12. rg144

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    Whilst I hope its not the case, I'm anticipating everything up by +$100 over previous gen MSRP list price if all the rumours about decent performance increases are true. 4080 maybe +$150-$200 in line with nVidia's stupid comments recently.

    Still not buying into the hype of 2x performance, but have to say core counts (increases) are noteworthy.
     
  13. Sankari

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    But can it beat my 1070 Ti?

    :weirdo:
     
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    Given the 3080 MSRP was $700 USD, the 3080Ti MSRP was $1200 USD and the 3080 12Gb never received an MSRP (but was basically >$1200 USD at release) I can't see the 4080 being less than $1000 USD.

    4090 may remain at $1500 USD, but could also easily launch at $1700-$1800 USD and still sell out.

    Me neither, at least not in a watt-for-watt scenario. If the card can draw, sustain and cool 600W then sure I can see it running faster - but that's hardly apples to apples vs the 3090s TDP of 350W.
    I bet compared to the 500W most 3x8pin 3090s can run the 4090 gains are nowhere near 2x.
     
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    Memory config still a big unkown atm. Would love to see 4070's in 16GB and a monstrous 32GB wank card :cool:
     
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    Personally I'd prefer smaller faster over larger slower VRAM any day for better overall performance in games. i.e. 12GB 25+Gbps GDDR7 > 24GB 21Gbps GDDR6X
    But GDDR7 might not be available depends on the release date of the RTX 40 series, and maybe only get used on second gen 40 series cards, 4080Ti, 4090Ti etc.. and that could work out better for everyone cos then the performance difference between 4080/4090 vs 4080Ti/4090Ti would be much higher compared to the performance difference between 3090 vs 3090Ti.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Love the date on that msi link...
     
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  18. MR CHILLED

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    Definitely. AIO's a very mainstream these days, why not for a gpu also....well aside from the extra space needed of course.
     
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    I would say they should even be prioritised for a GPU even if it means sticking with aircooling on the CPU. The benefits of ejecting 350w+ of heat straight out of the case via an exhaust radiator instead of it baking the case internals can not be understated. Pretty much vastly more effective blower cooling without the noise.
     
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  20. rg144

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    Have done this last few yrs, always thought about GPU rad setup before cpu. exhaust rad is great, even more so if rad is entirely external, albeit not many want to do this.

    Exhausted heat makes for a nice foot warmer too with a duct from the pc —> feet ;)
     

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