OCAU Official Poll on Mandatory Internet Filtering in Australia

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by Agg, Dec 1, 2008.

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Do you support the idea of mandatory internet filtering in Australia?

  1. I support the Mandatory Internet Filtering proposal

    46 vote(s)
    1.1%
  2. I do NOT support the Mandatory Internet Filtering proposal

    3,991 vote(s)
    97.5%
  3. I am undecided

    26 vote(s)
    0.6%
  4. I don't care

    29 vote(s)
    0.7%
  1. lavi

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    14 year old goes to school and brings home 2GB of porn on his memory stick, goes into his bedroom and starts pulling :)

    where is the filter helping?

    14 year old goes to school and learns about a "proxy", comes home and sets one up and voilla no more filtering

    where is the filter helping?

    parents vote for filter and get it, leaves the 14 year old alone thinking "our awesome government is protecting our child", opens up the door and huuuraaaayy 14 year old has webcam on and pants down

    where is the filter helping?

    if you want to protect your kids then fucking supervise them! that's how a parent should be! i really wanna see a class action against the gov porn filter when shit's hits the fan :)
     
  2. qwertylesh

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    your right, supervision is the key.

    its pretty simple too. setup your own parental controls on your router (ie; blacklist the worst sites, i'm thinking 4chan and the likes)
    make a rule there is to be no desktop computers in the bedrooms
    netlimit them, and use remove supervision software, pcanywhere is good enough. if they terminate the executable so you cant click in and see their desktop, smack their asses till they learn to leave it alone.
     
  3. matthudson

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    Or set it so that the computer reboots when the process is touched
     
  4. est

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    If I were a parent the scariest thing on the internet would probably be the thought of a pedophile "grooming" my child for a meetup via some kind of chat app or social networking site, which would not be blocked by the filter.

    The only thing that would have a chance against this kind of thing is constant communication with the child and education about what you should and shouldn't do online. If the govt wants to do something about protecting children online they should put a lot of "stranger danger" style internet education into the syllabus. I can remember having the crap scared out of me in school when I was a kid, being told that strangers were out to get me and such. Surely this could be done in a more intelligent fashion with internet safety?
     
  5. qwertylesh

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    win+r shutdown -a

    its pretty simple to circumvent, unless you made it hard restart! :wired:



    edit: wow, almost 2,600 this has become quite an impressive poll, oh and 33 people are weird and I don't like you :p jk I just massively disagree with your logic.
     
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  6. MrTanman

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    ridiculous
     
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    2683 votes in 24h :thumbup:
     
  8. MrSmoke

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    GAH ITS SO FUCKING STUPID
    think of all that money they could use to make our internet not as shit, but instead they pump money into making it shitter......WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    that brown beast that comes out of my arse is smarter than most of these ppl
     
  9. Grimezy888

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    What ever happened to freedom in this world?

    I Do Not support mandatory internet filtering.
     
  10. mIRcmAN

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    anyone with some knowledge will bypass this filter in 2 seconds..

    ready?

    http://www.hotspotshield.com/

    owned

    or get your own VPS and route your traffic through that......

    pedos already have ways of hiding their traffic..

    i have never heard of anyone stumbling upon kiddy porn by accident unless they are looking for it..

    conroy needs a punch in the face
     
  11. saibot

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    The money could be spent somewhere else on something useful, it's a definite no from me.
     
  12. pinguspeedhawk

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    People are naieve to think that this filter is going to do anything truely effective.

    Look at mediums like IRC, for years and years and years childpr0n, credit card details and all sorts of other unsavoury material has been transfered through massive channels on various networks with minimal (if any) resistance.

    Are the governments going to go through and filter every IRC network, every FTP site or any harmless looking site, that may have material that could be deemed illiegal or offensive.

    I think this is simply a quick fix to a problem that will never be fixed by censorship.
     
  13. spectreofgloom

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    I oppose it. If it was an opt-in system, I would support it (even though I have doubts about its effectiveness). However, a compulsory system with no opt-out is just wrong imo - that this is being seriously considered is another example of why Australia needs constitutional freedom of speech protections (but that's for another thread). I also can pretty much guarantee that some legitimate material will be caught in such an approach and that this will not always be accidental.
     
  14. Jay

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    Non-web protocols are on the future todo list as some of the future options to improve filtering as recommended by the ACMA Report June 2008. Emails, Newsgroups, Instant Messaging, etc.
     
  15. t8y

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    even if it was opt out id still be against it, as id be paranoid that by opting out they would question my motives and put me under surveilance or something :Paranoid:
     
  16. pavlos

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    hell no.

    i'm just pissed off that it's going to slow everything down. i don't really care about it blocking stuff, that can be bypassed in seconds....
     
  17. Harper:ToV

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    The problem with the filter is what else is going to get filtered too. There is a lot of stuff they ACMA wishes to blacklist that is not illegal by law. Eg. Online Gambling and Fetish Website.

    That another concern too.
     
  18. mjcrow

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    First comes internet censorship, then the Australia card ID and forehead tattoo, then the mandatory anal probes.....where does it end :Paranoid:
     
  19. cpl punish

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    I concur! Westerners in countries like UAE use this software to access sites like flickr becasue the government deems they are "unwanted".

    With the number of sites on the net whats the point of running off a "blacklist" of only a couple of thousand sites (at most). Once content is made publicly available its bound to be copied and copied and the people who really want to find it will anyways.

    Also, at least as far as the mainstream media is concerned, Senator Conroy is the evil face behind the plan. Why not as much scrutiny on the PM? (aka your best mate KevinPM©).
     
  20. rush

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    Hell, Conroy would look at this site and think "OMGZORS theres at least 2700 pedophiles!!!"
     

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