Primary School Network... to domain or not to domain?

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  1. PabloEscobar

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    I've not, and I don't. But I do know that a Windows Domain in and of itself does not provide these service, and (for any reputable services) is not even a requirement for most of them.

    By going down the 'domain joined, or no network for you!' route, you inadvertently push people off your 'safe' network, onto Mobile or Mi-Fi networks, that you have no control over, which would result in porn being more easily accessible.

    A Domain can provide Authentication and Authorization, it might even allow enough management of some of the device settings (such as enforcing a proxy). But it wont do any filtering.
     
  2. sympozium

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    no local schools, local decisions over there then? I started to write a rambling drunk post but its easier just to say NSW DEC is different, principals are pretty much responsible for all decisions made in the school. Mandatory reporting is now even directed to the principal rather than direct to DoCS or Police.

    Enough thread jacking, we dont even know if the OP is talking about priv or public. Things are possibly different again in QLD?
     
  3. tin

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    Pretty much doesn't apply to NSW DEC school IT. Especially in primary where I'm pretty sure all are now on the new management system.

    Edit: I assumed the OP is in a private school based on the school owned, student issued laptops.
     
  4. sympozium

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    QLD public schools offered students laptops to buy at reduced prices with payment plans etc so that's why I was not sure about priv or public.

    Oh really?? I had heard that changes were coming when I left, DIP servers going into each primary school with a goal to centralize all ICT to sydney or something of the sort. But it was only being planned at the time, I am genuinely surprised that it went ahead. Did LMBR ever happen? haha

    In my time schools had a choice of going full dept provided IT or doing everything themselves, they had just removed the requirement to use approved vendors (lenovo, hp etc) as long as the principal could prove to the audit directorate they had shopped around and got at least 2 other quotes (I think it was 2). I remember having to argue the point with an auditor who was not aware of the changes, he then confirmed it with his boss.

    Narrabri? My condolences if you have a brain and have to deal with norm.
     
  5. Braedz

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    Have the school owned laptops connected to the domain.

    I would use Citrix on the BYOD and the domain connected laptops. Get the students in the habit that if they need to do school work etc, they need to connect through Citrix.

    That way you can ensure all school work data is backed up, even when they are doing homework from home.
     
  6. pantner

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    Are these running with the factory image? Until recently our notebook program was parent owned, bought through the school. All computers had our SOE and were on our domain, managed by us (Through Altiris or SCCM).

    Do you/the school really want to make 9 yr olds responsible for setting up their computer for school?

    yes, definitely on the domain with a mandatory profile. Lock the suckers down with group policy and a good profile. (On our mandatory profile, kids can't even right click on the desktop)

    definitely. I would make these local profiles.

    What are the actual reasons for this? What are they loosing by having a domain? or what are they gaining by not having one?
     

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