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[WORKLOG] Project Darkling & older build logs

Discussion in 'Extreme and Water Cooling' started by dasa2, May 18, 2020.

  1. dasa2

    dasa2 Member

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    With AtomicMPC forum being shut down next month I decided to try rescue my old build logs by moving them to OCAU which seemed appropriate since a lot of my water parts have been purchased through these forums.

    Posted May 19, 2014
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    Silverstone TJ08-EW arrived today and is now stripped.

    Looks like I will have to cut some holes in the bottom so the top ports on the Phobya 200mm rad can drop through since they poke it up just high enough to be obstructed by the front USB ports which will provide a handy bonus making the loop easy to drain.

    Most don't have to do this as they just mount the rad onto the fan where as i will be bolting the rad to the case then the fan on the inside.

    Looks like I'm all out of cutting disks though so i am going to have to try find some so I don't have to resort to the angle grinder for such small holes it would make a bit of a mess even if it is just the under side of the case.

    Just a bit smaller than the 10 year old CM Stacker (STC-T01)
    Sorry for the phone snap I will make sure photos from here on are better quality.
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    Ok pinched my sisters D300.
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    Shes so sexy I keep coming back here just to look at my naked little darkling.

    May 20, 2014
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    Spent a fair bit of time hacking the shit out of the bottom of the case with the tools available, I'm afraid its a bit of a mess but at least I wont be looking under the case.

    Pinched in the rolled edge sides of the case with some pliers so the rad has room to slide all the way forward.

    Just have to cut off most the front clip from the side panels with the angle grinder so they can go back on Edit: scratch that i should be able to just fold it over flat.
    Hopefully the front of the side panels wont bow out to much when its done.

    Then make a few more holes for hose to exit the rear of the case.

    Rad poking through.

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    Crimped side to squeeze in rad.
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    May 22, 2014
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    Well the side panels fit again.

    Unfortunately the window panel took a little damage and has some small dings where i adjusted it with the hammer.

    The rear panel has a bit of a crease but i actually don't mind how that looks.

    It could be improved with more hammer but probably at the cost of the paint which i cant be bothered redoing at the moment.
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    The QDC and fill port also arrived.
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    Next step is to make a hole in the top for the fill port and some holes in the rear to head through to the QDC which are 1/2" compression so i will be using three tube sizes in this build with 7/16" behind the MB tray and 3/8" internal.

    May 23, 2014
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    Well the snake arrived and it might be touch and go weather or not the side panel fits on with it totaling 78mm.
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    The snake has ~12-16mm of inner room and the enzotech m to m fitting is also ~12mm giving me 56-60mm of room to get around the card which is way more than I needed so I may need to order a shorter extender, guess I'll find out soon enough but it would be nice if they provided better measurements for these parts.

    Finished making holes today these ones took a while but actually ended up nice and neat.
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    May 27, 2014
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    Assembly is in progress (sorry more quick phone snaps).

    Now if only i could find that barb... after cleaning it i stopped to shift some clothes that were drying and I'll be stuffed if i can work out where I sat the dam thing.

    Snug fit 190mm PSU (+wires) in a case that recommends 160mm and supposedly can handle a max of 185mm without odd. The ODD is also rather long at ~180mm i think its a Pioneer BDR-20.

    Safe to say the 8 pin EPS lead out of the PSU is doing a tight bend and there is a bit of pressure on the screws holding in the ODD.
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    May 28, 2014
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    Some quick shots from the first power up.
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    edit: bugger gpu block mount must be bad its hitting 65c when it should be under 40c

    Cant help myself.
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    Some shots with a 30s exposure.
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    Loop order rad>cpu\pump>gpu>external rad or just back to front rad.

    Power use has been as low as 55w idle but with a USB modem plugged in and one of the HDD spinning and monitor on its typically about 70w.

    With the system at stock clocks but undervolted to 3.8ghz 1.15v\1000mhz 1018mv load power use is
    ~140-160w in L4D2
    ~220w Firestrike GPU 1\2
    ~125w Firestrike CPU
    ~250w Firestrike combined (with it at 4.3ghz 1.28v\1125mhz 1112mv load power use is ~300w)

    The HDD are the loudest components at idle when the pump is 1200-2200rpm and the fan is ~500RPM.

    The pump and the fan make there fair share of noise as they rev up to 4400rpm and 1200rpm they soon drown out the HDD.

    June 12, 2014
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    Aww the poor little darling has been gutted in diagnosis of what seems to be a dying PSU.

    It took me a while to workout as at first it was failing to resume from standby then it was failing to power on most attempts unless disconnected from the power but stable once running and this all started after I updated the BIOS.

    Now if I could just workout why the IGP(my HDMIsound output) seems to keep disabling itself so that it doesn't even show up in BIOS.

    As you can see this little old Silverstone 500w 80+ is using 48w which is 7w less at idle than the Seasonic XP 100.
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    June 18, 2014
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    I have taken a risk on a ebay xfx 290 dd $250+22p

    THIS ITEM IS NEW IN THE FACTORY CARTON- THE OUTER MASTER CARTONS RECIEVED SOME SLIGHT CARTON DAMAGE - WE ARE SELLING THIS AS "SUBJECT TO INSURANCE CLAIM - " SOLD "AS IS"

    While not as good a deal as it was a few hours earlier before PCCG put them on special for $399 still cheap.
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    September 11, 2015
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    A year has gone by since my PSU started acting up, finally nabbed the Corsair TX 750 v2 from my sisters PC so I could keep running while I sent the XP1000 of for RMA.

    Unfortunately the first two PSU Itried in her system were dead and killed one of the HDD thankfully just a old 320g Seagate not the 3tb or SSD.

    They were decent PSU once and I thought they were still working but anyway parents were away on holidays so I flogged a PSU from there PC to get her Photoshop PC (my old q9450) going again.

    As a replacement for my XP 1000 Seasonic sent me a XP 1050 which is fairly new out so there can be bonuses to acting slow.

    So after a year of my PC being a bit of a mess with no side panels its finally back together.

    Flogged some of the padding from the PSU packaging to make the hdd a bit quieter.
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    July 14, 2018
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    Felt it was time for a little update after I finally stuck some heatsinks to my 1070 heat plate.
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    Also installed a second 180mm fan on the rad FM181, being white it looks a little funny.

    It's such a tight fit the old AP181 had to be offset to avoid the other side of the case but there isn't enough room between the AP181 and the GPU to use the other mount plate anyway.
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    August 10, 2018
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    Configured the system to run fanless when idle, virtually silent at low loads, very quit under typical gaming loads.

    Then it can ramp up to full speed if it gets hot for some reason like if I don't bother to turn on the ac when its 45c outside\inside.

    Provided I don't use batteleye anticheat software as it disables speedfan. Safe to say my GPU got hot before I realized and unfortunately its memory is now only stable at +600MHz instead of 700MHz+ OC.
    This was before i attached the new heatsinks to it.

    Also have a external temp probe stuck into the fins I glued onto the 1070 and so far the hottest those heatsinks have hit is 42c when there isn't much airflow thanks to this quiet fan profile
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    August 21, 2019
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    So a little update the Radeon VII went in a while back and since the 1070 was touching and the Radeon VII is ~1mm longer it is safe to say it is a tight fit.
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    Now I have swapped my 6700K for a mates 7700K and after deliding it is running 5GHz AVX 4.9GHz 1.32V llC5 with Vdrop to ~1.3v and topping out at ~60.

    Only run some short 15min stability tests so far so I may need to tweak that a little yet.
    Tried 5.1GHz 1.375v but it blue screened within seconds of starting the stability test.

    I was hoping that the memory controller would be better and I could just set 4000MHz but like with my 6700k it is still twitchy over 3733 and often wont post at 3866 even though it is stable if it does post.

    Modified mount holding on the old Storm G5.
    The old stained Tygon tubing was the only thing I had that didn't kink badly with that bend.
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    Fan speed is now controlled by Argus Monitor.
    It can kinda run fanless but the PSU fan kicks in and is rather loud if the 180mm fans are off and the MB cant disable PWM fans unless run in V control mode so for now it is just very quiet.
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    Just in case that wasn't enough PC porn for you here is a little history with some of my older builds in there prime.
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    Love it mate. Three questions:

    1) What's in the box under the Antec/Chieftec?

    2) Is that steam from an overheat?

    3) The NUC in the air filter is very cool. What was the usage case there?

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    my guess for #1 is a water chiller....?
     
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    My guess too, but keen to see the guts :p
     
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    Nothing as exiting as a chiller just the alloy tray sides from a old 60s landcruiser used as a radbox for a Camry heatercore it also doubled as somewhere for the big old Ehime 1250 to sit and sticking out the rear is a fan from a car but it was just to loud making it a bit of a failure.

    However with a little ducting it soon became a chiller and when I held onto the thermostat on the AC to keep it warm the antifreeze did get below 0 forming some ice on the outside of the loop.
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    You are not the first to think that was steam but no it is just dust if you look closely at the front you will see the tip of a air compressor nozzle (could be mistaken for a shadow) blowing into the heatercore.

    The NUC was for our dairy Automation system it is exposed to a lot of grain dust, gravel dust and insects but that filter keeps it spotless without impacting airflow.


    Another failed project was the side pannel on the CM Stacker had a large mesh opening but only a mount for a 80mm fan
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    But after trying to attach something bigger I soon found that this ceiling exhaust fan emitted a large amount of EMF when my CRT monitor started to flicker badly if it was within two meters.
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    I really appreciate the extra info there mate, cheers.

    - That ducting is insane - I used to stick my 1080 external radiator (with nine GT 1850s) in the window on cold nights before we moved house to achieve something similar - window was the perfect size to hold it and I had it on long tubes. Eventually ran even longer tubes out across the yard to a submerged Camry core in the water tank - pump and reservoir ran full-time in the house pump box out the back, just a pair of lines in through the (towel-packed) window frame. Good times, wasn't uncommon to see 16C GPU load temps during winter - no real trouble with condensate surprisingly, but packed full of X60 towels just to be sure :p

    - Yep you had me with the dust blower - didn't see the gun at all! Was surprised that the tubing was still in form though!

    - That NUC is insanely clever - I asked because I want to do something similar for a bulk dry store shed at work (thousands of tons) to relay temperatures out and supersede the shitty old local system we have currently. That might just be the answer!

    Thanks mate, loving the memories :thumbup:
     
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    Good times indeed :)

    Some more info on the NUC build here with the first cardboard mockup I did before delving into metal.
    https://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/topic/56889-nuc-broadwell-buildreview/
     
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