1. OCAU Merchandise now available! Check out our 20th Anniversary Mugs, Classic Logo Shirts and much more! Discussion here.
    Dismiss Notice

[Rant] F connectors annoy me.

Discussion in 'Electronics & Electrics' started by Goth, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. Goth

    Goth Grumpy Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2002
    Messages:
    9,228
    Location:
    /dev/null
    They're such a pain in the arse to try and get on properly, firm, without crossthreading them, with three connectors next to each other going into a cramped wallplate, with only a little bit of cable coming out of the wall cavity, in the dark... :(

    I need a beer. Stupid not-flexible-at-all RG6 cable.


    So, everyone,

    Your favourite, and least favourite connectors?
     
  2. Walshy

    Walshy Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2002
    Messages:
    352
    Location:
    Brisbane
    4-pin molex power connecters in PCs. God-damn, could they have made them any more difficult to remove? :mad:

    Yeah, I know, pliers make it easy(or a little more so, at least), but how many other connecters in the average PC need pliers to pull them out? :rolleyes:
     
  3. tin

    tin Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Messages:
    6,416
    Location:
    Narrabri NSW
    I'll 2nd the 4-pin "5.25 inch" style molex plugs. Bastards to get out, especially in mini towers with a cheap power supply right behind it. Pull hard, whack corner of power supply with hand, go find suitable blood soaking material.

    I don't so much mind the F connectors. I do have trouble with one of the sockets on my tv card because it's got so many, but it's not so bad when you aren't in a hurry. Trying to get it in so you don't miss a show is bad though.
     
  4. -KoMoD0-

    -KoMoD0- Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Messages:
    9,033
    Location:
    Western Sydney
    I agree, they are a bitch to remove when its a POS PSU
     
  5. LethalCorpse

    LethalCorpse Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,760
    Location:
    Cambridge, Massachusetts
    SATA connectors - they're always bloody loose, and the locking ones only work on motherboards. And, they break.

    Notebook DC connectors - Another day, another frigging plug. Every time I see a new notebook psu, it's got another four or five different plugs to the last model, and then the following week I get a customer whose laptop doesn't suit it. They usually paid a fortune for the laptop.

    RCA connectors - when used as speaker outs on "brand name" amplifiers. Seriously people, it's a low level signal connection. Don't muck about with it.

    Cordless phone battery connectors - see notebook connectors.

    SMA connectors - Which tool decided to have SMA and SMA reverse connectors, and not tell anyone? We've pretty much got it figured out now, but I still occasionally have to sell a system with half a dozen bloody adaptors.
     
  6. IceT(error)

    IceT(error) Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2001
    Messages:
    545
    Location:
    Howrah, Tasmania
    Soldering s-video connectors! They are a complete prick. Give me a VGA connector any day
     
  7. jboles

    jboles Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    2,408
    Location:
    Sydney NSW / Seattle USA
    Least favourite? SATA data. Loose, unreliable, unshielded, and fragile.

    Favourite? Firewire connectors. Secure, pretty robust, and obvious at-a-glance which way the plug goes.
     
  8. t00ch

    t00ch Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2001
    Messages:
    2,083
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Yeah molex's can be a bitch, especially when the pins are kind of loose in the plug and so they move around and won't line up with the other plug.
     
  9. dakiller

    dakiller (Oscillating & Impeding)

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2001
    Messages:
    8,110
    Location:
    3844
    my number one hate would have to be for rca's, especially in the use of plugging in spdif, no, make that just about any piece of manufactured equipment that has a spdif connection on it, 99.99% of them all use a connector that doesn't even meet the standard of a 75ohm connection! Don't get me started on folks who then say that it doesn't matter and it is only 1's and 0's when the clock is transmitted in there as well which directly effects the digital to analog conversion (what about optical? that is even worse!). I don't care that it isn't going to be audible on most of the devices anyway, I'm ranting and it is the principal of the thing! You know if they just used a 2 wire connection and put the clock in the dac and slaved the audio data from the device that it would solve all the problems of it, and that the people who invented the spdif standard only made it up to quickly test devices in the lab and that it wasn't intended for real world use :wired:

    Now, for some superb connectors -
    BNC - very secure and strong, just slide in and twist to lock, nothing can go wrong with them
    IEC - they just work, I couldn't think of a single thing that could go wrong with one of them, and I just like the look of them too. Every mains power connection should be an IEC
    XLR - fuck rca which are either real tight or real loose, xlr are dam solid audio connectors
     
  10. Tabris

    Tabris Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    839
    Location:
    Albury
    This one annoys me the most, come on manufacturers! Give us a bloody standard already!
     
  11. bradrogers

    bradrogers Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    Messages:
    1,900
    Location:
    Canbizzle
    Amen

    The ones I hate is DB9's and DB25's
     
  12. jimbow

    jimbow Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
    Messages:
    672
    Location:
    Perth 6163
    I've always had a soft spot for BNC connectors :thumbup:

    My least favourite would have to be a tie between the 4-pin Molex power plug (sticky bastards!) and the PS/2 port - mainly because there is so much gear with terribly designed plugs that it's almost impossible to get in the right way. I've bent more than a few PS/2 plugs pins before!
     
  13. OP
    OP
    Goth

    Goth Grumpy Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2002
    Messages:
    9,228
    Location:
    /dev/null
    BNC connectors are great, absolutely, but the user friendlyness of the connector comes at the expense of extra stuffing around involved in terminating it, compared to say F connectors, which any idiot can terminate (I suspect that's one of the issues that got me pissed off in the first place.....)

    LEMO minature coax connectors are one of my favourite connectors by far, but they're quite rare outside of certain specialised fields.

    Another of my all-time favourite connectors are the Microphone style connectors, with the threaded retaining collar. Really, really easy to plug and unplug, strongly keyed, robust, chunky and idiotproof.

    Have to agree with dakiller that the IEC power standard connectors are quite nice... Except for those stupid non-polarised 2-pin things, combined with bad design.
     
  14. Annihilator69

    Annihilator69 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2003
    Messages:
    6,069
    Location:
    Perth
    Yeah I don't like socket F connectors either.

    Just got the house all done up recently for tv reception and its all socket F and the connector needs to come out for like 10 metres before it bends and its easy to screw the connector by cross threading. :thumbdn:

    If they made the thread thicket larger it would be easier to use.
    Its also annoying when the little bit that you turn gets stuck so its hard to unscrew.
     
  15. sgn

    sgn Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    594
    Location:
    sydney
    Fav: network cable (rj45) connectors... Click! and its in.

    Worst: Sony Ericsson... i wake up in the middle of the night to my phone going BEEP! optimizing charger all the time.
     
  16. dakiller

    dakiller (Oscillating & Impeding)

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2001
    Messages:
    8,110
    Location:
    3844
    As long as you don't break the plastic clips on them, very easy to do when pulling them through holes, around furniture and such :(
     
  17. raprex

    raprex Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    310
    Location:
    Berwick
    yep old my old Sony Ericsson used to do that, some connector pin loose, the plug doesn't stay in firm enough.

    the rj45 connectors, family would often break off the clip when pulling the cable under a desk or behind something..

    what hasn't been mentioned yet, is the big sized firewire plug. Can't remember what its called, but on the computer it is possible to insert the incorrect way without much force, and caused a malfunction on my video camera (that resulted in getting Sony to replace the mainboard).

    but yeah, molex by far are the worst.
     
  18. stewpot

    stewpot Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2001
    Messages:
    1,305
    Location:
    NW Tas
    Gaaah, you've got me started. Lemo multi pin connectors are a total bitch to terminate. The pins are all about 0.00001mm apart, and there's next to no space in the back shell to rearrange conductors etc. They're a joy to use, but a bitch to terminate.
     
  19. tin

    tin Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Messages:
    6,416
    Location:
    Narrabri NSW
    I agree. Great plugs and since so many devices use them now, international travellers would have no trouble.

    And ballanced. And lock in. Cheap ones are a pain though (although the cheap DSE plastic ones I got years ago are still going strong).
     
  20. SpEeDyDj

    SpEeDyDj Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    Messages:
    193
    Location:
    Mt Waverley Melbourne
    [QUOTE

    the rj45 connectors, family would often break off the clip when pulling the cable under a desk or behind something..

    [/QUOTE]

    Then buy the cables with boots on them, a little bit more expensive but you will
    never break them :thumbup:

    The speed of the net these last couple of days due to that dos attack :thumbdn:
     

Share This Page

Advertisement: