Remember Lotus Notes? It's Still a $1 Billion IBM Business

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  1. foxmulder881

    foxmulder881 Member

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    Just read this article about IBM and Lotus. It makes for a very interesting read. And I'm curious, does anyone here work with Lotus Notes anymore?

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  2. Ding.Chavez

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    I do.

    and I love it.

    400 head company, all over S.E.A, runs a treat over thin pipes. Has integrated IM with full teleconferencing video/audio, runs my document management systems, runs my helpdesk ticketing system, runs my intranet with associated PMO and extranet for stakeholders outside my network. Email Vault addon is easy as piss.

    I integrated 40 exchange users into Lotus notes last year and they all got cranky with having to change, 6 months later they sing its praises.

    Its cheap, requires less grunt that exchange, easily clustered and is just generally kick ass.
     
  3. markius

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    I was using Lotus Notes from 2008 to December last year. Unfortunately my company was a little slow on the uptake, and we were still using version 5.0 (from 2002). It was shit....

    Fortunately we have now migrated to exchange, and I estimate my productivity has increased by at least 20% (more time to spend on OCAU).
     
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    Still use it... the idea that you can't copy folders from one mail file to another without a script is a bit ludicrous. Apart from that it seems to do its job.
     
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    Lots of big orgs are heavily invested in the lotus stack. I'm glad I no longer work for one such place.

    why are you trying to hide the destination URL?
     
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    Jeeze, whoever pulls that dildo that is evidently so far up your arse should be crowned King Arthur.
     
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    Wow. As this is a field I have no idea or experience about, I'm curious what alternatives there are on the market other than Lotus Notes that could handle all those tasks? Or is it all a combination of multiple technologies?
     
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    Thanks for the sig.

    Back on topic - I hate Lotus Notes / Domino.

    Slow and clunky P.O.S.

    Moving away from it as we speak.
     
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    People call it Bloated Goats for good reason. The reasons I dislike it can mainly be classed as bloat in the client:
    - It runs on an Eclipse runtime which runs on Java
    - It has a stupid proprietary rich text markup format that corporate people love to make multi-megabyte emails
    - It has other stupid proprietary protocols like an ever-changing Sametime protocol for instant messaging

    But from a design/architecture point of view it's very nice and does most stuff well.
     
  11. Ding.Chavez

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    What versions are you on?
     
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    We have a global workforce of 30,000 people, all on Lotus Notes -> version 8.5

    Clunky and slow, but with so much invested, how can we change :(
     
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    Are you doing it right?? :)

    I don't understand how people think it is clunky and slow. 8.5.3 runs a treat. Never had any "clunky or slow" issues.

    What are you comparing it to? One-Dimension-Outlook ?
     
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    It takes ages to start up, we have quite many plugins into Notes.

    It will very often take 6-8 minutes to start the interface, even if I load certain tasks as the OS starts...

    Having worked with it for 13+years, it is cluncky and slow, and V8.02 and earlier were buggy as hell.

    At least 8.5 is better/more stable, but still slow.

    ps: Once up and running, quite ok, just startup times that peeve me a bit...
     
  15. MatterHorn

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    I use it now, and in my previous job and don't have an issue with it. I think it does a number of things better than Outlook/Exchange. It was a bit of a change coming from Outlook/Exchange originally, but I don't think about it much now, just send off a few emails and book meetings, etc.
     
  16. elvis

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    Anything is possible if you really want to do it.

    I'm totally over the idea of dealing with email. It's such a commodity problem, and I just don't care any more. Outsource the lot to Google, and don't talk to me about it ever again.

    (In before "ZOMG teh privacy issues!!!")
     
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    Ahh, the good ole sunk costs fallacy. It's pretty much all legacy enterprise systems vendors like HP/IBM have going for them these days.
     
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    wanna pull it out with your baby teeth?
     
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    We talking current day Thatcher or back in the day Thatcher?
     
  20. Falkor

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    Agreed, the only people who should be dealing with email infrastructure are those providing it as a service to others. Its the simplest thing to outsource and suits it very easily.
     

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