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Retro, The Sounds and The Music.

Discussion in 'Retro & Arcade' started by power, Jul 30, 2010.

  1. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    "Ewww the MegaDrive sounded like crap".

    In the wrong hands, yes. But watch what happens when someone who knows synths back to front has a go.

     
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    yes Joe Redifer of Game Sack kindly pointed out why the Megadrive copped a lot of flack for sound in this video.

     
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    More on the MegaDrive audio from one of my favourite channels. First video lists some of the "soundtrack engines" used, and from there you can spot patterns to identify them.

    All audio captured from a real Gen 1 Japanese MD. (Although it should be noted that, right now, MiSTer is *really* close to this, as measured by the MDFourier audio analysis tool).



     
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    16 Bit AudioPhile project:
    https://16bap.theclassicgamer.net/media/

    High quality (up to 96KHz lossless) captures of audio from retro bit consoles and computers. Lots of Amiga and MegaDrive stuff there, but other consoles and systems too.
     
  5. elvis

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    A little different to the music itself, but a great video on counterfeit sound chips, and how plenty of popular YouTubers are unknowingly using fake ones:

     
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    A great video. Now I know where all these new-looking chips for the DIY scene come from. I had no idea.
     
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    Same. I mean, it was kind of obvious that something was afoot. There's no way these things are either sitting around unsold by the squillions, or that there's new stock being made. But it's nice that someone bothered to do the research, confirm, and publish something not hidden away in the dark depths of some elite forum or discord channel.
     
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    I know how much people like Ys, i've still not had a chance to play one as a series it's quite daunting too.

    Always great to hear something from Yuzo Koshiro though :D
     
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    Ditto. Honestly, I want to just sit down and power through Ys 1 at some point. Start from the start. But even then, not sure which version to try, as there's quite a few, and they differ a little in their ported engines.

    I think I'd go SMS first, just because of my nostalgia for the system itself.
     
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    1. Go to https://vgmrips.net
    2. Select Browse -> Top Packs
    3. Play all of them in any order (the #1 position is "The Scheme" by Yuzo Koshiro)
     
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    ooooh shiny
     
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    Don't forget these guys either. They go to extreme lengths to get hardware accurate sounds, and are very pedantic about sourcing the hardware they use to generate the lossless rips they acquire.

    https://16bap.theclassicgamer.net/

    Some of the better preservationists out there with a music focus.
     
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    Zophar's Music Domain is another one that foregoes audio accuracy concerns to put a VGM player in your browser and play tiny music files instantly. It has a lot of Game Boy and Sega console stuff that's missing from vgmrips.
     
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    With a new little CRT in the corner (and the audio fed into some real speakers) I've got Perfect Dark's trip hoppy intro on loop while I prepare dinner. It's a personal happy place.

     
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    Poking around the webs looking at MIDI modules today, and I stumbled across this thing. I'm sure a few people will know it when they see it, but today I learned all about it.

    FB-01.jpg

    The Yamaha FB-01 was an early 80s FM synth, little brother to the legendary DX-7 keyboard and built on Yamaha's YM2164 FM chip. It predates General MIDI by a long shot, so this module is no substitute for the usual Roland gear for 80s/90s gaming. But it does happen to be built on the same Yamaha chip as the ultra-rare IBM Music Feature Card:

    IBM_music_feature_sound_card.jpg

    This makes it compatible, on paper, with the small selection of games that support the IMFC - mostly Sierra titles. It just needs a little help to make it happen. Three years ago, Vogons user Scali wrote a solution for use in DOSBox, then turned that into a standalone TSR called SoftIMFC:

    https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=9555&start=160 (ctrl-f Scali)

    Like SoftMPU which allows a Roland MT-32 to function on almost any sound card's MIDI port, SoftIMFC allows games that support the IMFC to drive the Yamaha FB-01. I believe this is the latest version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1qorqr9ppyorod6/SoftIMFC.zip?dl=0

    Here's a comparison of Leisure Suit Larry 3 through an Adlib, and an IMFC / FB-01. It's more historical curiosity than game changing difference, but the latter does have a little more character (notably from about 20 seconds in).





    For the minimal benefits and the tiny list of supported games, is it even worth seeking out the hardware to do this? No. Will that stop me keeping an eye out for one? Also no.
     
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    Yes. Very much that :).
     
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    I sent some praise to the SoftIMFC dev last night, and he replied with some more information. In addition to being able to use his DOSBox patch to drive the FB-01:

    Here's 8bitguy's video on the SAAYM Game Blaster / CMS clone. Plenty of music demos within, including yet another Larry 3 comparison at 5:40.



    Seems like every day you learn about some other bit of preservation that's happening out there in the scene. It's so good.
     
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