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Ryzen 3000 series CPUs

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by luke o, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. wintermute000

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    Yeah but still, I understand people who feel 'ripped off' over that missing ~2% boost clock, sure its only 2% but its the principle of it. I mean I can't seem to get within 100 points of reviewer CB20 scores (average around 3450) which is irritating lol

    I'm happy with it coming from haswell as well (4790) but I also got it for $289 which is a large part of the satisfaction. I suppose had I wanted a bigger boost I would have had to spend in the 9700k/3700X class.
     
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    new bios on the CH6
    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_BIOS/

    Notable because...
    my emphasis :)
     
  3. Daveros

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    No matter what I try, all my single core benchmarks on the 3900X are 3-4% down against day-one reviewers. I can beat them in multi (slightly), for sure, but in single I've got nothing. Background tasks closed, clean windows install, fans and pump at max, etc. I'm not boosting to the same point.

    We'll see if BIOS updates amount to much in the mid-to-long term, but I'm not holding my breath. Especially with stuff like this about.
     
  4. wintermute000

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    It's been confirmed 1.03 and/or ABB nerfed boost, AGESA 1.02 was too aggressive for long term use.
     
  5. dirkmirk

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    Sounds like AMD should've marketed the cpus 100mhz lower, higher clocks sound nicer but doesn't mean anything the proof is in the pudding, still great cpus and sharply priced.

    A grey area if some cpus do and some don't, in the past they were conservative with clocking cpus but now they're right on the limit, I feel it's kinda misleading just knock a hundred MHz off the box happy days.
     
  6. Daveros

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    It's not the same thing, really, but all this currently leaves the same sort of sour taste in the mouth that I got with the 3.5GB GTX 970. I know I'm being overly picky, it's 3-4% at most, but yeah.

    Be interesting to see what happens with the 3950X day one reviews - will the single core benchmarks be lower than the 3900X?
     
  7. PureFire

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    Unlikely given the 3950X has a boost clock of 4.7Ghz, 100Mhz higher.
     
  8. Daveros

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    Well, you'd think. But if they are backing off the boost in the newer BIOS releases, what’s that mean for newer CPU releases?

    IDK, I don't really understand any of this. All I know if I've never seen anything close to 4.6, my Cinebench single-thread scores look dissimilar to day-one reviews, and I'm reading that earlier BIOS releases were more aggressive in boost. I'm adding 2+2 for 6 here, but you can see why.

    My other theory is that AMD are just throwing together shit silicon to get a product out of the door to meet demand, though I hope it's not that one.
     
  9. wintermute000

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    Are you referring to this stuff?


    https://www.overclock.net/forum/28085580-post549.html

    Given this stuff is coming from people like Shamino (ASUS in-house overclocker) and The Stilt (AMD in-house overclocker) its quasi-official IMO
     
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  10. the_pessimist

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    What are you scores in cinebench r20?
    for me SC:510 MC:7076 which seems to be in line with most reviews.
     
  11. Daveros

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    7060/493 just now - with max CPU temp recorded at 69.4C (ran twice, once with HWINFO on, once off - highest result recorded)

    had a much better multi-core score this morning (~7100, it didn't save for some reason) when it was cold af in here, and I think single core was 498.
     
  12. the_pessimist

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    Yeah that's not too bad. I still think its something running in the background for you that's causing the lower single-core score as your multi-core score is fine. if you have more than 2 cores boosting past 4ghz during the run then its definitely the case.
     
  13. Daveros

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    It’s not terrible, but it’s def lower than the reviews.

    Nothing else is open, at least nothing I can flag. Idk man. Idk...

    It’s B450, BIOS or its the fact that my cpu was manufactured so recently they picked up two pos 3600 dies out of the bin just to get it out the door.
     
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    CoreTemp just added support for Ryzen 3000

     
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  15. vid_ghost

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    They all reviewed the CPU's in open bench tests using super expensive cooling that was also compatible with intel
     
  16. Daveros

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    I’m not entirely sure about that. Techspot/HUB say they used the Wraith Prism.
     
  17. vid_ghost

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    the 3950X has more CPU Cache and 100Mhz .. even if its clocked the same its still got more Cache.

    I think they are cherry picking dies for the 3950X with 90% of the top binned Zen2 chips going into Epic processors first.. Desktop get the defects and duds
     
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  18. vid_ghost

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    My 3700X runs at around 4.4Ghz :) on single core boost. I see it very often. i guess i was lucky but i only play League of legends capped at 144FPS to match my 144Hz monitor so i guess its 100% pointless either way. My intel i3 6100T used to do 144FPS too with a RX470
     
  19. chook

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    But, and most importantly, your capped 144FPS gaming experience is way faster than my capped 144FPS gaming experience ;).
     
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    Hmmm Asrock have removed the B350 Gaming K4 motherboard from their list.. I guess no more support for my board.
     

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