Ryzen 3000 series CPUs

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by luke o, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. RnR

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    You seem to be sitting on some juicy tidbits... :p

    And congratz to Lisa Su for getting Best CEO of the World for 2019!

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    I wouldn't read too much into it :p , It's something that (afaik) hasn't existed before so it would likely be a talking point among most reviewers especially since Ryzen has traditionally liked fast memory :)

    And that is exceptionally awesome award as well!
     
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    If true, strikes me as slightly pointless. It is the CPU where I would like to see more PCIE 4.0 lanes and the only way to do that is with another IO die which puts us in Threadripper territory.
     
  6. OJR

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    unless the lanes are already there in the IO dies?
     
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    Possible but that would, I presume, mean yet more SKU's to be announced in the CPU line; maybe something in between Threadripper and Ryzen? Threadstretcher?
     
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    I reckon Threadripper refresh will most likely drop anything with less than 16 cores. Or at least start at 16 cores.
     
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    I agree. 16 (minimum) to 64 cores is my speculation there. The difference between the 16 core Threadripper and 16 core Ryzen will be the PCIE lanes and the memory channels.
     
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    nar, 590 chipset will be for TR2 and 24c/48t will be base minimum.
    one or two of the top tier TR will get the 4 way smt from epyc for 32/128 :o
    bye bye intel hedt, been nice knowing you
     
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    I wonder if anyone has given thoughts about the Windows 10 1903 update? Some folks claim some nice performance increases, others don't. A brain fart of mine is that everyones execution environment is different and those that don't see performance increases has an environment that loads the threads in the right places all the time. The ones who saw a benefit are those with an execution environment where threads are no longer allocated to cores willy nilly.

    By execution environment I mean the set of background/foreground programs and services.

    Thoughts?
     
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    wccf had an article about the 64 core TR2 line up and mentioned that amd was going to change the chipset x599 name to avoid confusion with intel
    they might do a flip on this chipset name ??
    i'm just postulating is all, i dont believe that or see any reason for amd to drop 4 way smt into threadripper just yet either

    what is evident is amd have tiger blood
     
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    So all the literature out there says that 3600 CL16 is the new "sweet spot" for Ryzen 3000

    Is it just me or is 3600 CL16 really expensive (compare to say 3200 CL16) and rare / super expensive @ 32Gb kits (or bigger)? You can get 16Gb of 3200CL16 for ~$130 nowadays (better with specials etc.) and 32Gb for ~$270. But for 32Gb of 3600 seems to be $350+ for crappy CL19, and usually $450+ for CL16.

    Am I mis-interpreting "sweet spot" or am I just horrific at RAM shopping? (for the record I'm glancing through pcpartpicker and manually checking scorptec / PCCG as 'control sample')

    Or is everyone assuming get 3200 rated RAM and OC to 3600 hope for the best?

    I guess in a few weeks we'll all know how much CL16 vs CL19 matters etc.
     
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    Might get an extra 5% out of the faster ram. Not worth it, doesn't sound like a sweet spot too me
     
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    Yeah was going to settle for 3200 CL16. I do have 144hz but will only be able to afford 2060/5700-tier maximum so probably wouldn't notice the difference.

    Getting OT now but what are the risks of buying 2 separate 16Gb kits (identical SKU) and then not being able to hit the rated speed?
     
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    Make sure your mobo can run the memory speed you are after with 4 sticks. Some can only run full speed with 2 sticks.
     
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    Cool, thanks for the tip. Gonna wait until the dust settles and QVLs etc. are out.
     
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    Gamers Nexus have posted their weekly HW news video. The First 8.5 minutes covers the cost of X570 motherboards. Looks like a few things contributing:
    • signal quality requirements meaning reworking of traces;
    • more expensive part in the chipset (around double);
    • more higher end motherboards;
    • AMD wants better margin; and
    • motherboard manufacturers want better margin.
     
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    if only more people would TLDR there 20+min videos I don't have time to sit through. Thanks
     
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