Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

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  1. shane41

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    Good stuff in the fs forum atm. 1080's 2080's. 10900K's. The gpu's are priced good but these cpu's will not hit $750+ anymore.
    Sales like this I'm looking at and no bids at all.

    Sucks to not sold Intel junk last week :lol: But I'll hang onto my combos for 3D scores. My hunch is the ryzen 5000 will be close matched to my Intels in this.
     
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    When is Cyber Monday?
     
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    30th November
     
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  4. MUTMAN

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    aka no stock day
     
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    Yes but you can make up for that latency in both directions, either by running a really high memory speed (against a low FCLK) or running a high FCLK against a low memory speed (like in this case).

    A couple reviewers showed this (hwub, gn?), it's the reason why the FCLK can be disconnected in Zen2. It's for oems and low memory speed systems, not for uber high memory oc.

    I can't find the reviews so I've just done it myself on my own pc, as attached. The latency is of course exaggerated as it's 2133 at the worst possible timings known to man (and my cpu can only do 1866fclk). With tweaked timings it's much more reasonable and IIRC scales up to ~ 2800Mhz before the 8ns delay is no longer offset by the higher fclk and you're better off at 1:1. This would probably be higher if your chip is good enough to run a really high fclk, like 2000mhz.
     

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  6. FIREWIRE1394

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    Well $469 is a lot for the current base model... But at best $400 for the best of the best used i7’s sounds right.
    1800x=$100, 2800x=$200, 3800x=$300.
    Any more than that and people are ripping themselves off.

    Say... you have a lot of golden chips there don’t you?
    I’ll take all your garbage 8th, 9th, and 10th gen Intel CPUS and matching boards for $50 pp.

    Y’know, to help you out and all.
     
  7. jvalente

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    See any i7-9700k/non k there?
     
  8. Aussiejuggalo

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    Hey! Every store will have stock... It'll be Intel :lol:.
     
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  9. shane41

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    Maybe. Look back a few pages fs forum. Last few days

    Fixed.
    Golden you say? :leet: My 10900K's goldy and unicorn bench 55x 1.41v
     
  10. Grom Hellscream

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    Think I’ll be replacing my 7700k with a 5600x. A bunch of benchmarks are showing no gains going better for gaming.
     
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  11. RnR

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    New BIOSes coming;

    https://community.amd.com/community...our-motherboard-for-the-amd-ryzen-5000-series
     
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  12. Phido

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    If your coming from Threadripper, I would go with the 5950x.
    Remember x570 everything is PCI-4 which is twice as fast, so its like having twice as many PCI-E lanes.

    Looking through the reviews in more detail, I've gone with a 5900x, but the ultimateness of the 5950x is attractive. However I'm in ITX, have a budget and I don't want to buy a new PSU and cooling a fully clocked 5950x is going to be problematic. I am still half considering changing my order.

    With Matx/ATX and a regular sized PSU, I would be choosing the 5950x.

    An interesting comparison is the 5950x verse the 3990x thread ripper with 64 cores..
    https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2673?vs=2631

    The 5950:
    • almost beats it in multithread geekbench 4 ( 59k vs 61k)
    • Faster in x264 encoding (pass 1 and 2)
    • Faster in handbrake encoding h264
    • Matches in 3dPM Multithread
    • Faster in gimp and Photoscan
    • Faster in AI
    • Gets beat in the Cinebench R20 mt, but only half as fast (would probably match a 32 core Thread ripper).
    • POV ray is 2/3 of the 64 core score
    • 7 zip/AES is 2/3 of the score
    • Beats Threadripper 3990k in R10Multithread!
    • Nearly beats it in the R11.5 multithread
    • Beats it in most of the Spec2006/Spec2017 benches

    What is stunning about that is that it beats the 64 core version of the previous generation in many multithreaded workloads. Like rendering and encoding.

    The 5950 is pretty competitive with the Intel Xeon Platinum 8280 28 Core/56t processor. a $10,000 processor.
    I know everyone is pretty excited about gaming performance, but if you look outside that bubble for a second, and compare what 5000 series is doing in productive workloads, its pretty amazing.

    If you are after the best setup, get a Asus Dark hero, 5950x, 128Gb ram, watercooling 360mm or custom loop with multiple 240's and clock that baby up to ~4.8Ghz all core and still get your 5ghz boost.
     
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    So any of you gotten the Far Cry 6 key or anything yet?
     
  14. chook

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    If you aren't doing any multi-threaded work save your money and get a 5600X seems to be the current belief. I know that GN did a review yesterday that said this. They alluded to the idea that the 5800X was a silly SKU but I haven't seen their review for that chip yet to comment further.
    X570 is full PCIe 4.0. B550 is only the first PCIe x 16 slot and the M2 slot (or first if you have one of the boards that have multiple).

    X570
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    B550
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  15. MUTMAN

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    ummm. we were lead to believe the single thread stuff was where all the gains were going to be made.
    seems that MT has also increased in efficiency too ?

    fuckin amd design teams are going to be binging on coke and hookers for this years xmas party :lol:
     
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    Yep. They are meeting up with the team from PLE to spend the Nvidia pre-order money :lol:.
     
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  17. Dunska

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    A new Ryzen Master version is out - 2.6.0.1692.
     
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  18. Malakai

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    5950X... Do it! Do it now!

    I'm shoehorning a 5950X into my ITX machine with a 280mm AIO. I'm looking forward to trying to push a 4.7 GHz @ 1.375 VID all-core, give or take a couple of MHz using per-CCX OC. Daily OC will be much lower but it will be fun to try for that 12000+ CB20 score. I just hope the AIO and silicon will make it there.
     
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  19. mAJORD

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    Yes , Intel seem fkd in the server space . It's hard to imagine they won't continue to bleed market share at an accelerated rate, Whilst they'll crawl back their small gaming performance lead with Rocket lake (but nothing else) Their only response to Milan for servers is Icelake SP.. Further delayed, and not even on Superfin.

    Even Tigerlake cores, from a quick look at Anand's power measurements on Zen 3 seems to now be trailing by 15+% in Mhz/w , per core , right up past the 10w range,


     
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    Was that not for zen2 sales?
     

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