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Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Skramit, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. RnR

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    There are rumours that Zen 3 will be called Ryzen 5000 series. And a rumour that Zen 3 apu's will be hitting the streets Q1 2021. But yeah, AMD knows its confusing, and probably why they will align the naming of the apu's and non-apu series.
     
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    No different to all the other ryzen APUS mate... they were always the previous year's node
     
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    Rumours on anything & everything is so common during this era of Wuhan virus (aka covid19)
     
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    so maybe the time to upgrade is now if Zen 3 is still a long way off. I had been waiting, thinking it would be forth quarter 2020.
     
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    Huh? the new 4000 products (non APU, with updated node) should be out this year still. Ryzen 5000 next year if they keep their current naming scheme
     
  6. RnR

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    That is still the case. Q4 2020 for Zen 3 desktop cpu. We just don't know if they will be called Ryzen 4000 as per the thread title, or Ryzen 5000.

    Source for the Zen 3 = Ryzen 5000 rumour;
    https://videocardz.com/newz/report-amd-ryzen-9-4950x-5950x-engineering-sample-boosts-up-to-4-8-ghz
     
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    Every subsequent revision has had a nice uptick in IPC I wouldn't expect this to be any different

    Trying hard to cement their position against intel especially while intel is encountering fail after fail with their new nodes is a pretty good strategy.
     
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    well. yeah.
     
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    High clocks will be a win for everyone. It seems likely ryzen 4 will have quite high clocks. 4.8Ghz is high enough to be satisfying.
    My Ryzen 3700 only boosts to 4.4Ghz max.

    Combined with the ~17% improvement in ALU IPC, 50% improvement in FPU..

    Should result in ~30% faster single thread ALU performance over a 3700x. Multithreaded FPU performance would be 3+ times faster.
     
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    Might be waiting a long time for these desktop apu's.

    They simply cannot make enough mobile chips to meet demand.



    Great for amd that the demand is there but this will scare some companies knowing their orders might not get fulfilled.
    Something Dell used to talk about years ago.
     
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    Ryzen 4800H destroys Intel...

     
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    Based on that article, the Zen 3 3950x equivalent will have a max boost 200Mhz higher than the 3950x, so we could expect 4.5 - 4.6Ghz all-core at reasonable voltages.

    That extra 200Mhz is going to do virtually nothing to bridge the 'gaming gap' to Intel - even with a small IPC improvement. A lot of it is really going to come down to bringing down latency inherent in the chiplet design. If AMD can get that latency down to 50ns or lower, that combined with IPC uplift and higher core clocks should destroy Intel across the board including gaming. Here's hoping!
     
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    meh plenty of games where amd's 3000 series already smokes intel cpu's.

    looking at the zen 3's around end of year or start of next year. and also what intel pulls out of its rear end too.
     
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    Sure - if by "plenty" you mean zero :confused:
     
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    Yeh - that site is so wrong it's depressing.

    I would recommend GamersNexus for the most accurate benchmarking of everything. Also, Techspot (as posted above) are notoriously AMD-biased in their reviews, but even they clearly conclude and show that Ryzen is behind in gaming.

    https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3592-intel-i5-10600k-cpu-review-benchmarks-ryzen-5-3600-et-al

    The 10600k is anywhere from 5 - 20% ahead of a 3700x in gaming depending on the game and overclocks.
     
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