Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

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  1. spit051261

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    Super pi is probably the best bench to see how are ram is fairing.
    Its the best bench there is anyway.
     
  2. mesaoz

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    I'm running 3000mhz CL15 ram right now, reckon it's worth doing the ubiquitous 3600/c16 combo for gaming? My kit seems happy enough to do 3600/c16-19-19 but I do notice some weirdness occasionally when it's running those speeds. Crashes if I goes lower timings than 16-18-18
     
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    CL11, nicely done! which kit are you using for that?
     
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    I'd just make sure you're running dual rank (ie any 4x8gb or most 2x16gb kits) that gets you most of the way there to top performance that tighter subtimings an expernsive B die kit can get. And even then it only really matters for 1080p gaming with a high end GPU anyways. See:


    You probably just need to tweak subtimings a little to get 3600c16-19-19 fully stable. Get Taiphoon burner to work out memory ICs and ryzen dram calculator to work out stable subtimings.
     
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  5. spit051261

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    G skill 4000 cl15
     
  6. ricmc

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    Recommended one of my students to buy a PCCG bundle of 5800x and mobo. They sent a bare-ass motherboard and are stating that they double check everything and don't make mistakes. Theres plenty of 5800x stock right? Such a shitty way to promote the hobby to a first PC builder.
     
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    Once again, Australian computer retailers showing off their wonderful customer service skills.
     
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    Relatively minimal price increase from 5800X to 5900X. It wouldn't make sense to run with the 8 core instead of the 12 core on a bang for buck basis. Of course the kicker is availability. If you need a new machine now, then you don't really have much option when it comes down to it. 5800X or wait.
     
  9. mesaoz

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    There is value in the 5800x if you want to have a single full 8 core CCX rather than 2 cut down ones - 2 ccx's is still far better than the 4 in the previous gen though

    Depends on the workload you'll be throwing at it I suppose.
     
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  10. ricmc

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    They're doubling down the ***** christ. Yeah the 5800x was a stretch up as it is. Availability being a key aspect. I didn't want to see him get a 3X00 anything at this point. I like the 5800x, as its 5950x or bust otherwise imo. I wouldn't go less then 8 cores, and good luck finding a 5900, they must be taping out fully functional more often then not.
     
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    I grabbed a 5800X from newegg last week for about $20 more, probably should have waited a couple of weeks and bought local or from Amazon.

    These are going to be widely available < RRP by end of March.

    Will all be worth it regardless if I can run 4 sticks of RAM at 3800 C16 instead of just the two currently with my 3700X.
     
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    My AMD 5900x setup up and running, but like many out there, had heaps of stutters during gaming. Narrowed it down to Discord and Steam/VR, decided to try the latest nVidia hotfix driver for my 3000 series card last night, grab it here: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5168

    Using fpsVR, saw only 1 dropped frame during a 30min sesh in iRacing with Discord active, none in an hour with it closed. Overall, that new beta 461.81 driver helped a lot with stutters, give it a go if you are suffering.

    Cheers,
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    Hey guys, just got a 5800x with x570 Master.
    My first AMD , why does it run so hot?
    cinebench r20 causes the CPU to go to 90 Degrees.
    I'm using a Corsair 150i and i haven't even tried to overclock it yet.
     
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    Hey be a swell guy and do a real world benchmark for me what's the FPS on a 16x16 embark of Dwarf fortress with a 200 dwarf population for your setup.
    That'll tell me a lot on whether it's time for me to upgrade.
    I mean I hear the new 5000 series are good but most people are running it for fortnight :p
    I want to know how well it's handling the memory bus for core computes at max die cache which i believe starts at the 5800x.
    Plus I have no point of reference for amd's shared cache impact and a monolithic CCX.
    Got to be the gold standard before introducing any latency between multiple CCXs into the equation.
     
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    Needed more speed for 3D benches :)


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  17. tfroggydawg

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    Got mine today and had the exact same experience, idling 10c hotter (in the 60's instead of 50's) than the 3700X it replaced and hit 90c in Cinebench R20

    Going to need to tweak my case fans as they are ramping up based on the CPU temps which are now always hotter.

    Got 4 sticks of RAM running at 3800 C16 1900FCLK though which I wasn't able to do on the 3700X. Latency as measured in AIDA64 has gone up significantly though, not sure why as similar timings.

    EDIT: actually not sure about latency, found an old AIDA screenshot of my 3800 C18 RAM and it was higher at 67ns, cant find any AIDA64 screenshots of the 3800 c16 RAM but cant have been much lower.

    https://imgur.com/Dc46NeJ


    Click to view full size!
     
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  18. lostdude

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    I've been googling and it appears to be a common issue with the 5800x.

    What case are you running? i've got mine in a Fractel R7 XL so there's plenty of room inside.
    The only way for mine to stay below 90c in cinebench R20 is to ramp up the AIO fan's to 100% when CPU temp is above 80c.
    This makes my almost silent pc sound like a jet taking off lol.
     
  19. spit051261

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    Thats why I run a single stage .
    Without that , I wouldn't even bother.
    The 5950 runs much hotter
     
  20. tfroggydawg

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    I dont fully understand why Ryzen master shows a CPU temp between 46-56C, but HWMontior and AIDA64 both showing 60c+

    Case is Meshify C, AIO is a cheapy but that wouldn't make much difference, think these just run hot and not much you can do about it.

    Single stage, do you mean RAM as in two sticks?
     

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