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Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Skramit, Nov 7, 2019.

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  1. RnR

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    Time for a Lisa tease?

    Edit: Ohh... nice 3D stacking tease...

    By the end of this year! :thumbup:
     
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    lots of RIP intel in the chat haha
     
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    +15% with the same cores at the same speed is fairly massive. Wow.
     
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    Yeah... nice gainz. Warhol at the end of the year with 3D stacking? Will Rembrandt have the 3D stacking? So many questions :D

    Edit: from twitter... "Zen 3 + 3D Cache, is competitive vs ADL" - So highly likely that Warhol aka Zen3+ is coming early next year. VCache is one hell of a '+' though :D
     
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    I can't believe chip-stacking with TSV in an actual retail product soon, it still seems theoretical in my head. Pretty amazing stuff, reckon it might be a tad on the pricey side.
     
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  6. RnR

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    On the other hand, compute silicon will still be done on the N7 process family, so no new risks in that space. Add a few extra IPC percentage points to the Zen 3 cores, the B2 stepping for slightly extra speed, and Warhol might be nudging 20% performance gain over Zen 3 on average.

    And then there is also the possibility of 40% power savings from an IO die done with GloFo's 12nm+ process.

    AMD have some nice options for their next cpu release.
     
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    10:40PM EDT - +15% faster gaming on average

    10:40PM EDT - One entire architecture gain just from vcache

    10:41PM EDT - Starting production end of the year

    well, that's "why Warhol?" answered
     
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  8. RnR

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    Indeed... but a couple of caveats unfortunately;

    Both quotes snagged from https://www.anandtech.com/show/1672...acked-vcache-technology-2-tbsec-for-15-gaming

    So yeah... bullish for a Warhol with V-Cache, but maybe AMD disagrees :)
     
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  9. MUTMAN

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    well yes, but

    so what else can it be, unless warhol is this highest end processor ?
    now they might just punch out a "8086" special ?
    Ryzen FX5000 :D
     
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    Serverside specialist cpu? We don't know what kinds of workloads works well with very large amounts of cache. Gaming seems to work, although only small improvement in some games. As I think Ian from Anandtech talked about in one of his video's, it could be that AMD will begin to offer different types of sku's to different segments of the market. Gaming sku's will have loads of cache. Business sku's will have not as much, but will have nice video and maybe even some tensor cores, so small AI workloads can work nicely. etc etc

    I don't know if this will confuse the market, but different segments of the market wants different things and are cost sensitive at different price levels. Maybe the idea of one cpu style can satisfy all markets is nearing its end.

    Edit: just saw this on my twitter feed...

    upload_2021-6-1_19-42-5.png
    https://twitter.com/davidbepo/status/1399653984646860801
     
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    Yup - makes sense and as mAJORD said on the AMD Roadmap thread, also makes sense since they showed gaming prowess and not some server chewing through gigs of data. But still not confirmed by AMD :(

    Some additional information about the V-Cache;
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    https://twitter.com/ExecuFix/status/1399671731112091649
     
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    I was wondering if they would thin the die. Wonder what the total thickness comparison is.
     
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    Latest steam survey;
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    I received my replacement 5800X yesterday - old one was failing P95 tests in CoreCycler with no curve set.

    New one is passing at 10 hours so far with a -20,-20,-20,-20,-20,-10**,-20,-3* curve and hitting 4700mhz all core boost with everything else set to Auto. 16051 score in Cinebench.

    Super pleased with the new unit.
     
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