Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Skramit, Nov 7, 2019.
its all place holder for now. all tidy it up tomorrow. already past bedtime here
If one of you fine gents (or anyone else for that matter) would like to craft some words about the IF, I'll drop that into the FAQ. My knowledge on this is severly limited to knowing 1:1 is good, and there is more than one clock to worry about
I'll make a mention of it for now, and expand it in another post
I wouldn't generate too much content yourself. Like the old FAQ... just post good links that has good coverage of topics pertaining to AM4
Hit me with the links
5000 series, thread needs name change.
click bait title.
it wont hit 5ghz from the factory
He does explain this. It will be like the 4.6GHz boost on the 3900X, one core only.
i missed the bit where he said hes an AMD engineer ?
Don't be too sure. 3900XT is at 4.7Ghz. TSMC's N7p process will allow the arch to clock another +7% higher. 4.7Ghz+7% gets you to 5Ghz.
hey im praying it gets there too.
but i also hope its a sustained clock, not a 12 microsecond burst
All you need is a 12 microsecond burst for marketing to go wild
But yeah... will be interesting to see if uarch changes also allows a higher speed. I doubt it though... sounds like the floating point redesign and the cache changes will allow a nice bump in IPC, and thats all AMD needs atm to consolidate its positioning over Intel.
As much as I would love to see that beautiful 5Ghz number, performance doesn't really scale well with frequency at the moment. If the arch/node/layout updates can sort out some of these issues with latency (faster memory and fabric clock, the change to L3 cache, etc) I'd be happy enough.
forgive my lack of understanding, but the the new ryzen is technically still am4? so a water cooling block for am4 will still be ok for the new ryzen?
Yep, same socket. Existing blocks will be fine
More here on the 5Ghz - https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-vermeer-12-core-24-thread-cpu-allegedly-up-to-5-ghz-150w-tdp/
"One of the main areas of improvement where AMD has put lots of effort into tuning on Zen 3 is the clock frequencies. As such, the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X is said to reach boost clocks of up to 5 GHz."
Although I have to say, the above line is not comforting. Thats either AMD marketing taking credit for TSMC's hard work, or wccftech being woefully under informed. Given that they are still referring to the silicon process as '7nm+', I would pin the fault at wccftech.
Hmm... beginning to think that desktop Ryzen 5000 is just marketing wanting to match 5Ghz boost clocks.
Van Gogh will have a 5000 series name and its based on Zen 2. Lucienne, the Renoir refresh, will apparently also have a 5000 series name and Zen 2.
If it'll do boost 5Ghz does that somewhat indicate we can overclock to a fair steady all-core of close to? (Yes, i know that was single core boost but i'm hopeful)
I don't really care about the arbitrary 5ghz number but a 10-15% IPC boost along with a 5-10% clock increase sounds pretty deluxe. Given intel hold a pretty slim ~5-10% advantage when reviewers enforce a cpu bottleneck in games, are we expecting amd to take the outright crown this release?
Yes. And the IPC gain is closer to 15-20%. Zen 3 is talked about as the biggest redesign since Zen 1.
My wallet is ready.