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Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Skramit, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. t8y

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    i mean, if thats all set in stone - PBO is still there, so its still boosting itself.
    given that currently PBO variables can be tweaked, to either hold those boosts longer or maybe exceed them (until the 1.35v limit kicks in).

    so possibly some options there, will see what guys like 1usmus put together or if his current tools can just carry over in hydra, CTR etc.
    either way i won't be paying to do their beta test of 3dcache. i'm good til next gen then
     
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  4. yaphax

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    Yeah it sucks for anyone in your boat, and pretty underhanded of AMD. I would have respected them more if they had said in the past "we don't think it's worth our resources to make it happen" rather than lie.
    But as an owner of a ryzen 1600 + b350 board I am delighted!! 5600x/5700x here I come maybe late in the year!
     
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    This is true, i wonder if they will also still enable curve optimiser, if so I think it should be good.
     
  7. vladtepes

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    Quick Q;

    I was thinking of a Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler to cool a 5950X.
    While I know the cooler is up to it - is an AIO a better choice?

    (My own experience with previous builds is that AIO isn't necessarily better, and also isn't necessarily quieter either.)
     
  8. Nian

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    The biggest hope we can have is that due to the fact that 7nm is now a more mature process, the 1.35v may not be as much of as a hindrance as first expected.
    It may boost well enough to be a non-issue.

    Only issue we have is that production will be in low volume and may be hard to get.

    Only final question is, if it's the same price as a 5950X. Is that cache really so good as to negate double the cores?
     
  9. MUTMAN

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    100% workload dependant
    if the task scales with cores than 5950
    if task hits cache a lot (and you have enough C/T) than 5800x3d
     
  10. Nian

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    Exactly. So all we need is a crystal ball...
     
  11. t8y

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    would probably need to be a 360mm to be worthwhile over that HSF, depends on your chassis i guess. 280 would be comparable?

    with these, i pick based on fans (or choose a cheap/2nd hand one and swap fans).
    everything else is kinda secondary with these AIOs mostly coming from 2 manufacturers IIRC
     
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    A 240mm AIO imo is too small for a highly clocked heavy workload 5950. Fine for stock, or mild clock, or gaming type workloads.

    A 360/280 AIO is better cooler, but perhaps not a better choice. After ~ 2 years my AIO is making noises and it bugs the shit out of me. Also the piping is a mess and restricts airflow in a tight case.
     
  13. vladtepes

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    So what about the air cooler? Good option?
     
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  15. Phido

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    Yeh I would go with an aircooler for a CPU. Most desktop CPU's are pretty low power these day in most workloads. Some of these large coolers are essentially silent and allow 250-300w cpu's. Again Mitx is not my friend, the larger coolers don't fit into my case.
     
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    This is my lounge-pc, so that's a 5950X with a Dark Rock Pro 4 and Red Devil 6900XT, in a Meshify C mini mATX case.

    (sorry for the horrible dust, this is a reminder that it's time to clean it out)

    dusty-boi.jpg

    Fits together quite nicely imo, I think mATX is a bit of a sweet spot. The board is an MSI B550 Mortar, PC was built in December 2020.

    Basically top tier gear, and my temps are pretty low, ~ 60s stock with effectively inaudible fans from the couch (~ 1200rpm case fans under load).

    I did have to use a 15mm 'slim' fan to fit in that GPU though.
     
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  17. Sgt Bilko

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    Very close to my rig!
    I'm running a 5900X under a DRP4 with a 6900XT Red Devil Ultimate :D
     
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  18. Nian

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    Modern big block air coolers are comparable to decent 240mm AIO's. So there's nothing from AMD at stock or with a light OC that they can't handle.
     
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    I'm sad. When I bought my system not too long ago my 3700x CPU and 5700XT GPU were the schizzle.


    edited 3700X not 3500
     
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  20. OJR

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    Sorry Vlad,
    Neither of those were ever “the schizzle”.
     
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