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Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Skramit, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. MUTMAN

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    Well, buy a 5950 if it's cores you want.
    I'm still lost why you think AMD have commited some crime here.
    If you feel that aggrieved Intel has some nice new CPUs just for you
     
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  2. Nian

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    This /\ Is exactly why your opinion is bad. Because you just don't get it.

    It also points out that you may be out of touch, as it's the majority of the tech enthusiasts that aren't happy.
    In fact, many have pointed out that AMD shouldn't have bothered unless they stuck to the 12 core part.
     
  3. MUTMAN

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    like i said, you have options. cry all you want here, it wont change a thing ...

    given this
    https://hothardware.com/news/5800x3d-decisive-victory-over-12900ks-in-gaming
    AMD were never going to cannibalise their own next gen sales

    the very fact AMD are still making CPU's for this socket is the real headline.
    it was never promised to make it this far.


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    so really, you should buy a 3700 and be content
     
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  4. rg144

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    I guess since he's crying about cores he can actually get a 3900 an be content ;)

    @Nian: Both RnR & MUTMAN are giving you sound and accurate information. They 100% understand what IPC is, precisely where cores are beneficial (and not), and simply that a 5600 is the cheapest/best bang for buck upgrade from a 2700x if you have to upgrade now.

    There is nothing "Mediocre" about sound common sense advice even in an enthusiast community.

    Again, for the record:
    - 5600 outclasses a 2700x.
    - They are telling you X3D shows potential (for gaming)
    - They are telling you you don't need 12 cores for gaming
    - Your 11% cpu util. at idle means your OS has some sh!t running in the background. More cores is not the answer. 2700x here running at 3% cpu as I'm typing this.
    - Your belief that more cores than a current gen console is the best option when upgrading = absurd, incorrect. That depends what you're doing & where you want to spend your money. A six core AMD with 3080 will smoke current gen consoles forever.

    End of.
     
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  5. MUTMAN

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    are yes, your right, 3900x or 3950x would be the better recommendation for core count
    :thumbup:
     
  6. t8y

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    side note, i went from a 3700x to a 5600x, was an upgrade in perf in what i do (gaming and some light productivity) despite the loss of cores :)
     
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  7. TaroT

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    if your on a 2700x sit on it till the next round simple as that nothing wrogn with that chip at all buying a new chip for a dying platform is silly i mena i did :p a 3900x to a 5950 but of course the price dropped 300 odd NOW :p thats life but this will do me a year or more into the next platform till it levels out the memory and other prices so i,m good.
    i will admit AMD over the llast few weeks have released some really sad cpus like the 4x series and the 5500 but the 5600 and 5700x seem ok the 5800xd will probably be expensive so not good value.
    gamers nexus have a couple of nice videos (although they are using win10 still but if your on win 10 its useful)
     
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  8. nCrypt

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    I Couldnt decide so i bought them all 5800x/5900x/5950x.

    by far the 5800X had the best IF, up too 2133mhz, my 2 5900x's both struggled to get past 1866 IF, and the 5950x did 2000 IF with ease on the impact, and with a little more tweaking got the 2000 IF on the dark hero

    now for games, paring each of these with my 2 x 2080 Ti, 3 x 3080, or my 3090, literally could not tell any of the systems apart.

    set and forget users, or sit in discord and game, and browse youtube/facebook, core count is pretty irrelevant. (for Zen 2 and 3 anyway)

    i went from a 3700x to a 5800x, because i could.
    i went from a 3900x to a 5950x, because i could

    i sold the x 5900x's as they were average at best, but again perfect for set and forget users, which that i am not!

    cant wait to sell all my zen3 gear when zen4 and ddr5 drop, again, not because i need to, but just because i want too, and am fortunate enough to can :)
     
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  9. MUTMAN

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    dude, you do it well too :thumbup:
     
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  10. Sgt Bilko

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    Being real, I think most people on this forum are in the "because I can camp" :lol:
     
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  11. demiurge3141

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    I mean I run a Ryzen 3 1200AF main, because I can.
     
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  12. the_antipop

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    Just bought a 5700x from ple for $419. Been able to offload my 3600 on marketplace for $200.

    I was going to wait until the 5800X3D, but knew that chip will be closer to $600, and I also wanted to upgrade my cpu cooler and case.

    Curious to see how it goes in games - from benchmarks, should be a 40-75 or so fps bump :thumbup:
     
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  13. TaXy DriVar

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    I'm now thinking I upgrade my 2700x to a 5900x, keep my x470 Gaming 7 Wifi Board with 4 x 16GB DDR4 RAM (Rated 3200 but stable only at 2933), Both M.2 Slots consumed (although one can only run at PCIe2x Speed.

    Why?

    I'll get a cheaper B450 Board and 2x8GB DDR4 for my 12yr old son. Give him my 2700x CPU. He can keep gaming on the GTX 970 for now. (Replacing Core i5 3470, 16GB DDR3)

    When Zen 4 and 13th Gen Intel come out, Ill go with the Bang for Buck at the Top end (Ryzen 9 or Core i9) for a complete new build (except maybe GPU - 2080 might keep ticking for a bit longer)

    The 5900x, x470, 64GB RAM system will then replace my UNRAID server (Currently Core i5 6500, 16GB DDR4). I have a spare 1050Ti for it as no onboard video.

    The Current UNRAID server will go to my 9yr old son, currently running a Core i5 3570k, 16GB DDR3, 1050Ti.

    I'll then have 2 Ivy Bridge systems spare. Perhaps I remove the pfsense VM from unraid and run a dedicated pfsense box with one of the Ivy Bridge CPU's, and use the other as a dedicated RetroArch box connected to TV.

    I run a Mix of Davinci Resolve for video content creation and some gaming, hence the 5900x
     
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  14. Nian

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    See, that's where you and the others have made the mistake. At no point did I ever ask or talk about going for the cheapest / best bang for buck CPU.

    I am talking about the best last upgrade for this system. The price didn't even matter. I was still considering the 5950X before it dropped below $1200. That was also when we had a good idea that the 5800X3D should be around $700.

    Again. This has nothing to do with budget. I have been doing this for decades now. I build a system, get the best motherboard (not a pointless halo product) available, give it some nice parts. Pick a reasonably decent processor, or best at time within reason. Wait till the socket it about done, then upgrade the CPU to the last best.

    I don't even do it for my main machine. The system can be my #2 and I will still do it. Heck, I have little hobby machines I have done it to. It is a hobby remember!
     
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  16. nCrypt

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    lol intel
     
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  17. pH@tTm@N

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    lol at only 720p and 1080p res tests

    need 1440p and 4k
     
  18. nCrypt

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    prob still lol intel
     
  19. pH@tTm@N

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    yeah maybe, but certainly not by as much.

    I think it is time to move on from even 1080p when you are using a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GPU 200fps is surely niche market right?
     
  20. MUTMAN

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    Just and only just enough to claim the crown ??
    Anyway it's a great shakedown of tools and processes for the zen 4 parts, everything is still tracking nicely for AMD but they may have underestimated chipzillas ability to turn it around ??

    I think AMD thought they had another 6-12 months up their sleeves before Intel got their shit together.
     

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