Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

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  1. darkbastard

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    AMD are already on top with IPC. Intel just have more of the ā€œCā€ part of that with their higher clock speeds so have higher single thread performance and lower memory latency which heavily impacts most games.

    clock for clock I believe AMD are already faster

    see 3rd chart down

    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_9_3900xt_review,9.html
     
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    5th of Nov at the earliest. We don't know whats in the official reviewers pack, but there would be some low level stuff.
     
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    I also find it interesting that so many joe averages see AMD as "the newcomer", when it was founded only 1 year after intel, and they were both startups by staff from the same predecessor company (Fairchild Semiconductor). I mean obviously intel was more pioneering early on, but it's an interesting exercise in marketing (intel inside, etc) and I wonder if intel is also just a more memorable name.
     
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    ummm didnt realise.
    i think there is some workloads where intel still wins ? AVX and so on ?
    well like you say, intel still have the freq crown
    that and the pile of cash ....
     
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    Which just got $9bil larger. They just sold their NAND business to SK Hynix. Includes fab in China, IP and their SSD business. Me thinks they are shoring up their bank accounts.
     
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    AMD can enjoy it while it lasts.
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    cinebench is bullshit for IPC. where is another Single Thread benchie at same clocks?
     
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    saw cinebench results, instant boner,

    clear upgrade incoming for both 3700x/3900x too 5700x and 5950x.....

    im just excited to play with the new CPU's, irrespective actually how much faster they are then intel. For me its not about look at me i have the latest cpu im better then all your intel fanboys.

    I just want to play with the latest hardware :D -- even if the upgrade is not $$ worth it, meh :D
     
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    Intel has broken advanced avx.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zd...s-i-hope-intels-avx-512-dies-a-painful-death/

    Everyone hates it. Compilers don't support it, it's recommended servers disable it, it's a pain to implement, half of Intel's cpus don't even support it.

    Although more will support it next year. However no single intel cpu supports all the abc instructions.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.to...pentium-cpus-finally-get-avx2-avx-512-support

    The very worst part is AMD is expected to beat intel in this with ryzen 5000. At lest in the more useful avx.
     
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    These chips are looking pretty good.

    Might hold off on my NAS rebuild and see if some 65w 8 cores come out. Providing they do a decently better job at H.265 decoding than Zen 2.
     
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    for gaming the difference between the 3xxx series low/high end wasn't that much...
    Hoping for the same from 5xxx series, so i can 'settle' for a 5600 with performance in gaming close enough to the high end chips

    Will upgrade the wifes PC to my 3700x and get myself a new CPU
     
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    I would expect the decoding/encoding performance of the 5000 series to be tremendously improved. 40%. That is based off the sisoft multimedia benchmark. Probably more depending on the encode. Even more impressive will be encode per watt.

    However note that there won't be a release of the four core CPU's at this stage. They will most likely come after perhaps 6-12 months.
    However, a non-x 6 core I think will be ideal for NAS.

    This is my plan. Wife is currently using my old 4790k, she complains endlessly about.
     
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    I'm hoping the H.265 has a big boost, got heaps of tv shows that get transcoded on my NAS. Bitch of a codec to transcode but the quality vs file size is worth it.

    4 core? Nah I'm looking at a 6 or 8 core 65w. 3700X has been on my list for a while, just haven't had the money for a rebuild yet, damn motherboard is expensive as hell now. The joys of server grade parts :rolleyes:.

    My main rig I'm looking at the 5900X or 5950X, depends on how close 4K encoding in DaVinci is. Currently the 3900X vs 3950X in DaVinci is only around 7% difference, if the 5000 series is similar then I'll grab the 5900X just for the $$$ saving.
     
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    Comrade, don't be sad... 5900x owners will also get pooed on in 2021
     
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