Ryzen 5000 Series Discussion

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  1. Maldark

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    Althought the consoles may have 8c16t, they're also a gen behind (zen 2) with limited clock speeds to keep them under a specific power envelope.

    From the numbers we've seen the 6c12t 5600x should smash that. I think it just means game devs will start programming for X threads instead of 1, or 4 like we have today. They'll become more scalable.

    None of that removes the fact that at any resolution 1440p and above the bottle neck is still going to be the GPU even if you've got 2x3090s.

    For gaming you just need "enough" threads and then the highest IPC and lowest latency you can get which at this moment appears to be anything in the 5000 series lineup.
     
  2. nCrypt

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    i will be replacing my 3900X with a 5950x, because why not.

    Then i need to decide what to do with the 3900X. Unsure if i should sell the 3600, and move the 3700x to the server, and move the 3900x to the 3700x rig

    Or if i should just get a X570 strix and 5800x and move on the b450 strix and 3700x as a combo, and sel the 3900x and replace with 5950x.

    As much as i like wasting money, i will need to see full reviews before actually buying a 2nd zen3 cpu. ill buy the 5950x without seeing. because why not.
     
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  3. Dingostolemyghz

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    Mate, you should be happy that we're not using phones as the standard for gaming performance. :weirdo:
    And for the next little while, they'll be dumbing games down for pc, not the other way round. Our little pc enthusiast bubble is still the minority of pc gamers, most are running 1080p on older midrange hardware.
     
  4. chook

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    Doesn't mean we have to like it. Things were better when we PC enthusiasts could maintain our elite status by having 8MHz (turbo on) 8086 chips with CGA graphics cards that displayed four different shades of green on our hercules monitors.
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Gibbon

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    Man, I'm pretty excited about the 5950X, if it can compete in single thread performance with the 10900K.

    I use my PC for work and play, and a lot of the work software I use is still single threaded, but some stuff benefits from more cores. Till now I've prioritised single thread performance, and so stuck with intel, but if I can get both I'm golden.

    Due to upgrade early next year (2yr cycle). Timing looks like it could be good.
     
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  6. Aussiejuggalo

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    Oh god, don't say that or some idiot dev might try it... Oh wait... Blizzard tried it lol.

    It's mostly because people cant afford a PC or don't have a good place to put it, really annoying. Consoles are just easier, buy a pre made thing, hook it up to your tv, job done :thumbup:.

    Always confused me why consoles needed custom chips. I don't see why they didn't just make them tiny PCs with standard hardware or at least near standard hardware so the performance could be almost the same as a PC.
     
  7. Ratzz

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    I'll be going from a 3600 to a 5950X, on a midrange X570 board. This was always my plan when I bought the 3600 in the first place.

    I'm likely to be hitting the preorder as soon as it comes ( Nov. 5th I think? ). Its always been my plan anyway. Intel have nothing coming that could entice me to buy a CPU, let alone a whole new platform, so I'm still jumping in boots and all. If I drown, so be it.
     
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  8. Phido

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    New CPU's don't make your old ones any slower. One of these days there will be no more significant process improvements. IMO AM5 might be the last platform that sees big jumps in generations.

    500 series motherboards look like being the top dog all the way through 2021 and possibly 2022. Ryzen 6000 will likely be a still significant upgrade on 5000 CPU's.
     
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  9. chook

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    That dude must be rich! Only wealthy elitists could afford 640KB of RAM. We only had 512KB. Also needs to fix his autoexec.bat and start it off with
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    @echo off
    if he wants to have things look neater when starting up.
     
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  10. RnR

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    Why? All indications are that it will be a Zen3+ effort.
     
  11. mesaoz

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    ZEN to ZEN+ was a pretty good improvement, better memory support, lower cache latency, more IPC


    Cinebench R20 comparison - single/multi

    ryzen 1700x - 344/3336 +0% over last single
    ryzen 2700x - 411/3956 +19% over last single
    ryzen 3700x - 494/4856 +20% over last single
     
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  12. Luno

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    I wonder if some of the flagship games for console would have had prior knowledge what to take advantage of though. Take halo infinite, halo is always the flagship of a new console and usually seems optimized (atleast somewhat) for that console.
     
  13. Luno

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    I’m seriously tossing up whether to pair a 5900x with a big Navi. Got a 3080 on its way but really tossing up a full and driven machine
     
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    If Halo is being made my M$ then maybe but it'd probably take a full engine redesign to really support everything the new consoles will have.
     
  15. RnR

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    Overall it was no more than a 10% boost to overall performance. 3% IPC gain and 6% higher clock speeds. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600/20
     
  16. Luno

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    I’m pretty sure they did. They spent like near $100m for a new engine, I think they called it slipspace. But pretty sure it was to be optimized for all the setups for the next gen console
     
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  17. nCrypt

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    im jumping in too, but have 3 zen 2 cpu's,. need to decide how many to keep and how many to upgrade

    3900x will be upgraded to a 5950x. that impact board is screaming for it!

    i have a 3080 at present, and a 2nd 3080 on the way. im hoping to get a BigNavi card as well,. will all be based on peformance.

    doesn';t matter how much cheaper it is, if it cant beat or match a 3080 not interested. thats just me but. :)
     
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  18. Sgt Bilko

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    Got some cash tucked away ready for either a 5800X or 5900X :D

    3700X will likely stay in the daily and 5000 series on the test bench, exciting times!
     
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    poor zen1+ shitting itself at 75c time for a upgrade ;(
     
  20. RnR

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    Maybe try with some thermal paste... :p
     

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