given that i'm starting to think about an update since my current system is aging out hard is it worth waiting for the next AMD cpus or should i just jump on the ryzen 7 3800x or ryzen 9 3900x? I know either of those will be a massive, MASSIVE upgrade over the i7 950 but i'm just wondering if it's worth hanging out for ddr5 and hopefully pcie5 ?
nah probably not worth waiting if you can justify the crazy pricing at the moment. If you can't and want to wait for more reasonable prices, perhaps the next gen will be closer by the time normal pricing returns.
yeah i wasn't sure wherver to hang on and go for ddr5/pcie5 or just go for the ryzen 9/7 way. Other than GPU/Ram i don't really do big updates like this all that often so the next time i update there'll probably be ddr10 or something lmao. think i'll just do what i was previously gonna do and grab a ryzen 9 build from ple for the 2k area.
Could be 2022 hypothetically. Edit: and just some more on this, because it wasn't posted explicitly in the thread; https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3574-hw-news-supercomputer-mining-malware-ddr5-amd - video was posted earlier in the thread - https://forums.overclockers.com.au/posts/18527248/ by @adamsleath Take salt ofcause... ..but lets assume the above is all true (together with the rumour in the first post) ...which leads to the following releases; 2020 - Zen3, AM4, 7nm+, DDR4, PCIe4 2021 - Zen3+, AM4, 5nm, DDR4, PCIe4 2022 - Zen4, AM5, 5nm+, DDR5, PCIe4
cool. think i'll just save up for that ryzen 7 3800x or ryzen 9 3900x build than. when i do it's gonna be a massive upgrade over the i7 950 lmao.
PCI4 offers very theoretical performance advantages, the types of devices that would make it a killer feature don't exist yet. Nearly all GPU's don't support PCI4, very few SSD's support PCI4, those that do aren't really professional grade. USB4, DDR5, PCIE5, might make AM5 much more attractive as an upgrade platform. Your talking multiple improvements there: DDR5 - Faster memory bandwidth and great capacity. PCIE5- Most people will be going from PCI3 based devices, if PCIE5 devices are out there, we could be seeing SSD's with 10,Gb/s transfer speeds. USB4- Again much faster for peripherals. Like storage etc. Also displays. Probably integrated 10GBe.. So your network is likely to be 10 times faster.
Also remember when Ram first comes out its often about the same speed as the older version for a lot more money. So its often worth waiting 1-2 gens after to really get some benefit.
so it might have been pauls hardware or another YT channel i saw the other day saying yes ddr5 will be out at 4800, but jedec want speeds to hit desktop starting at 5600 - 6400 because of what you're saying
DDR5 speeds seem insane, especially dropping 0.1V on the power draw. Hope the prices (and latency) won't be ridiculous .
5nm confirmed for Zen 4/Ryzen 5000... From https://ir.amd.com/static-files/fd06c15e-0241-424d-9fd9-5a469d96012d
Rumours are firming on AMD consumer parts remaining on the N7(and variants, N7p/N6) process for 2021 with AMD's server parts (cpu/gpu) going N5. For the desktop 5000 part this probably means a Zen3+ part on N6. Say hello to 'Warhol', successor to Vermeer. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5000-zen3-warhol-to-succeed-vermeer Edit: so a possible consumer roadmap for AMD; 2020 - Zen3, AM4, N7p, DDR4, PCIe4 2021 - Zen3+, AM4, N6, DDR4, PCIe4 2022 - Zen4, AM5, N5(p?), DDR5, PCIe5
The above road map looks to be locked in with Warhol being on N6 (N6 is an enhanced N7 process - hence the 'loose naming' for Warhol and Rembrandt) rather than on N5. Interestingly DDR5 support is shown being offered in Rembrandt which kinda suggests that Warhol will not have DDR5 nor PCIe5. So I'll cautiously predict no AM5 either.
