Smoothwall vs IPCop

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  1. birdie

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    Whats the differences, and advantages/disadvantages of each? I have used smoothwall briefly but never used IPCop.
     
  2. nux

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    Theyre pretty similar, IPCOP branched off from Smoothwall I think a while ago. I think IPCOP is slightly more customizable though.
     
  3. Quadbox

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    IPCop doesn't have adds. Pretty simple choice, really.
     
  4. influx

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    does the newest smoothwall have QoS packet shaping? ipcop 1.4 has wondershaper built into the web interface.

    [​IMG]

    not bad for residential dsl :p 28 days and counting. not sure what changed but this is a huge increase over my old record of 8 days continuous connection.
     
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    Neither does smoothwall 2 express (smoothwall 1 did).
     
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    http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7922

    There is a bunch of other mods you can add as well:
    http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=16
     
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  7. influx

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    okay I figured it might have been made available as a mod. It's included as an official part of the release for Ipcop 1.4 onwards (1.4.1 is the latest iirc)
     
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    I'd say IPCop is much better, if only for the fact that for what you pay extra for to get smoothwall corporate, (some of the modules, one example is multiple IP/alias's), you get standard in IPCop
     
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    http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4820
     
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    While I have no experience with smoothwall(When I went to their website it had been hacked, most likely the twiki exploit) so I got ipcop instead. In under 5 minutes I had a gateway for a large conference installed and deployed. It worked just fine. It includes most software you'd expect. For home use and even small businesses, I give it a thumbs up.
     
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    You forgot Clarkconnect!
     
  13. influx

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    or he might have remembered that clarkconnect doesnt take the same minimal cut-down approach as these 2
     
  14. thetron

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    Err it does. If that isn't miniable enough you can install apt-get and remove packages after installing

    only need 250-500Mb of storage space. Which is about the same or simlar to both IPcop and smoothwall
     
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    4 Network Cards

    IpCop supports
    1: Internet Connection
    2: DMZ
    3: WiFi
    4: Internal Network

    Does Smootwall?
     
  16. thetron

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    Not out of the box. I'd say

    With some extra building of packages you could
     
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    I dont mean file size, Im talking about design philosophy. and clarkconnect wasn't designed with the same aims in mind as smoothie/ipcop. the clarkconnect website defines it as a "linux server appliance platform", even the basic free edition comes with stuff like print, file and ftp servers. Like I said before, Ipcop and smoothwall are ultra-minimalist, the point being that a maximum security firewall box shouldn't be running all these services.

    http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/quickstart/html/requirements.html
    386 processor, 32Mb of RAM, and 300Mb hard disk.

    http://www.clarkconnect.com/info/requirements.html
    pentium, 64 ram, 1 gig hdd
     
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    [​IMG]

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    that was with bigpond dsl, ive been on internode for quite some time now (year or so)
     
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  19. influx

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    ask me again in six days or so :)
     
  20. hypersonic6

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    vote 1 smoothwall!!!

    you can do all these things through mods newayhs

    soz img a big runt shit i'm a bit drunk

    but i use smothwall on my linux server. p90 24mb rams runs smoothly :D

    clarkconnect

    a) cost msonehy
    b) is more insecure (smoothwall is most secure, it only has nessesary services, firewall, squid, etcetc

    alot pof ppl run other servicves on smoothwall, but that's bad since it opens up your firewall to vunreabilities. your smoothwall box should be strickyl *firewall only*. to maintain sytsem security.

    does IPCOP receieve alot of updates? i know smoothwall is frequently updated (ie, new kernels, patches for vunrabilities, etc)

    i love smoothwall :D

    bt smothwall doesn't have gcc com,piler :( so it is hard to compile new programs. does IPCOP come with gcc or sommilar c compiler? i suppose you shouldn't be afdding new programs for security reasons neaway. but still, gcc compiler is handy toi have
     
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