Spyware "Red Shell" found in lots of PC Games

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    Why don't DEV'S insert pre-filled surveys into their game(s), and participants get a cosmetic DLC as a reward. Its a win win as the mindset of someone who desires cosmetic DLC are more likely to be influenced by targeted game ads.
     
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    I like this post on so many levels.
     
  3. whatdoesthisdo

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    But how are you going to piss off your customer base and waste unnecessary money with a third party?
     
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    Get EA to publish your title.
     
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    OHHHH SNAP! lol.
     
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    How do you actually know this, did you READ the ENTIRE EULA that came with the game?

    Because that is how they get you, then there's the "Update our …. policy" emails or notices on the web page, do you read the entire content of those too?
     
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    I never had to agree to any eula.
     
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    EULA are largely unenforceable
     
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    A game I've been playing had a survey, after 4-5 years of bullshit. Lol. I would advocate going a step further than your suggestion. Create ingame player feedback with a reward or ranking system to encourage the playerbase to alter the future development. The drawback would be hiring so many people to filter the bullshit, "stop noobs from playing", "needs moar splosions" type feedback comments.

    Yep, it's not like an NDA and any local laws have precedence.
     
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    "accept" and "agree" are separate things :D
     
  11. whatdoesthisdo

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    I'll rephrase then, I never had to accept any eula.

    Secondly in the original reddit post people have already found no mention of red shell mentioned in the EULA of the some of the games that did have eula.
     
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    Interesting to see what happens when they realise that harvesting children's data and taking it off shore is a serious offence in Australia.
     
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    Don’t seem to have any games in my library in that list. Not installed anyway. I’ve only come across “Red Shell” today and it was while browsing Steam games review. Funnily enough, someone who had top review, linked reddit post. And fortunately, an updated comment thanking developers for removing it.

    Edit: Autocorrect....
     
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    I was looking at some games during the sale too and there are a lot of games with reviews that essentially go 'Has Red Shell. Do not buy." I would like ot think this will influence the developers but I feel that it is too late since people have already purchased them.

    It is a little like the loot box controversy. The vocal minority were out in force but while people buy I don't see the developers changing their behaviour. Possibly GDPR has influenced some of them as this kind of behaviour is now a criminal offence in Europe.
     

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