SSD Price Discussion

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  1. MR CHILLED

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    They have. Its on their website
     
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    I have a question I'm hoping someone can answer for me.

    My Taichi has 2 M.2 slots. One of them runs Gen3 @ x4. In this slot, I'm currently running a 512GB 960 Pro as my OS drive, and perfectly happy with its performance.

    I'm looking at running a second, higher capacity drive in the other slot, which is Gen2 @ x4. It will accept both NVME and Sata drives.

    The question being, since I can run an NVME drive in the second slot, but only at Gen2 x4 speeds, would an NVME drive (I'm looking at a Crucial P1 2TB) be worthwhile, or would it be no faster than a SATA M.2 of the same capacity, particularly for sustained writes?

    The 960 Pro I'm using in the 'Ultra Fast' Gen3 slot runs at 3000+ reads and 2000+ writes, and being a Pro will also obviously manage to sustain speeds for much longer than the cheapy Crucial P1, and of course also has the advantage of being in a Gen 3 slot.

    The P1 has claimed speeds of about 2000+ read and 1700+ writes, but of course its a given, with its QLC nand, that it won't sustain those speeds for long - as soon as the TLC cache is filled it will slow.

    Being much slower than the 960 Pro, is it likely to still manage the advertised burst speeds in the Gen2 slot, or will it be bottlenecked down to more like SATA speeds due to the Gen2 interface?

    Would I be better off getting something like a TLC Sata M.2 drive, with lower burst speeds but better sustained speeds? I'm far more interested in sustained than burst speeds, as it will be mostly used for large file transfers.
     
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    If you're going for a large capacity drive, do you really need the performance? What are you storing on this drive? Also, when transferring files, where are you copying them to? Are there any bottlenecks in the chain?
     
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    If you're using it as say a scratch disk for workloads then absolutely NVMe
    If you're using it say as a big games drive than nah save your $ and get the a big fat cheap SATA MX500 or something similar

    Has anyone been game to get one of those OEM HP EX920s on Amazon AU? $112 for 512Gb which is insane + 12% shopback and free prime delivery.... except there is zero support and you're out on your butt if anything goes wrong. Last time I checked they were doing the 1Tbs for ~220 IIRC but that's no longer there, but newegg is doing $180AUD + delivery (but I understand its the same deal, no support as its an OEM only product)
     
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    I just bought the 1Tb.. $220 delivered. Its now cheaper.

    The EX920 is on HP SSD support page. https://ssdhp.com/nvme/ and https://www.multipointe.com/ex920-m2/ RMA would be through the seller. https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/return-policy/#30074

    HP also sells them directly https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-turbo-drive-gen2-256gb-m2-solid-state-drive

    When I get home I will even check https://support.hp.com/au-en/checkwarranty to see if its supported there.

    Plenty of options. Its a small device so shipping to the US or where ever I don't imagine would be a huge issue. Even if they only ship the replacement to the US a US reshipper would handle that. 5 year warranty seems pretty reasonable. HP is a huge company with massive presence.

    These are also very quick drives. They have something like 50+ Gb SLC buffers, so will tend to out run most other SSD's, and have a very fast controller.
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13037/the-hp-ex920-m2-ssd-review - Finding the mainstream sweet spot
    https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8767/hp-ex920-ssd-review-mainstream-perfection/index.html - Mainstream perfection
    https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8870/hp-ex950-ssd-review-want-fastest/index.html -When you want the fastest (EX950 review)
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/hp_ex920_1_tb_m_2_ssd_review,22.html - Highly recommended
    Anandtech seems to prefer the ex920 over the ex950.

    Here it is compare to a new gen PCI4 drive. Does pretty well.
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_mp600_pcie_4_nvme_ssd_review,8.html
     
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    Grabbed an Adata XPG SX8200 Pro (512Gb) @ $115 + delivery from umart, was gonna post it here but now its already discontinued (did I just get lucky?).
    Not as good as the EX920 deal with prime shipping + shopback but at least there's someone to complain to locally and handle warranty
     
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    The Adata is also a great product with same controller.
    IMO these are the SSD sweet spot at $100-$200. They will be as fast as any SSD in most benchmarks, and in user experiences in a single user environment. But they are also very cheap, one of the cheapest on the market. No real flaws. 5 year warranty.
     
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    best 2tb SSD for PS4 ?
     
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    Cheapest one you can find. SSDs don't make much difference to PS4 load times.
     
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    I got a 2TB Samsung QVO for $258 before cashback yesterday. Brings it to $223 after cashback. For a Samsung 2TB QVO.

    Unfortunately when I posted it to Ozbargain they claimed it had expires so... :/
     
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    writing large amounts data possibly to capacity the big thing here is

    not having the drive slow to a crawl and said drive not shitting the bed in a hurry and dropping data.
     
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    Not sure where to post this. SSD discussion seems ok?

    My X470 Taichi has a pair of M.2 slots. One is PCIE gen3x4, the other is PCIE gen2x4.
    My OS drive, a 512GB 960 Pro, is in the faster slot. I plan on keeping that one as is.

    I want to use the second slot, for... something. Anything. It just seems wasted.

    I'm now considering a cheap 256GB NVME for the second slot, since there seems no point in sticking a faster drive in. At the moment, I think an Intel 760P might be the go. Cheap but not a bad drive according to reviews.

    The lower bandwidth of that second M.2 should mean that even the cheap drive should be able to saturate that slot.

    I am thinking 256Gb since that is the max Store Mi can use without paying for an upgrade, which I see no point in doing, and I am considering using that drive as an fast tier with one of my 3TB spinners as the slow tier on a tiered storage solution. I have 32GB ram, so I can spare some, and I can add to that tiered solution with another 2GB of ram for extra speed as well.

    Does anyone know if I get to select whichever accelerator drive I want, or am I limited to using the OS drive? If I can use the slower M.2 as the fast tier that would at least make some worthwhile use for it.

    Does it seem like a good plan, to those of you on Ryzen who have Store Mi available, or even better, are using it?
     
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