Yep, looks like Andy's strategy really is 5G moat + buy out NBN or bust. But even then you can't execute that by screwing over retail. They don't know whether they're coming or going with Enterprise. Its shambolic I did the whole Codi / 132200 bot runaround rage routine yesterday, absolutely maddening how you just can't speak to anyone point blank and the bots are so stupidly programed as to not just let you talk to someone if it can't put you into a cookie cutter box. Even then, I've heard from others that waiting times are horrendous. I've not had any actual service issues in quite some time so it was a bit of a shock experiencing it for myself despite hearing about it plenty Mind you the same pressures are on Optus/Vocus etc. and the noises I hear from say Optus Enterprise are not promising either. Looks like NBN has ultimately done its job of socialising the infrastructure and letting retailers compete via execution.