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The Amiga Thread

Discussion in 'Retro & Arcade' started by breech, Jul 24, 2010.

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What Amigas do you currently have in your collection?

  1. Amiga 500

    48.2%
  2. Amiga 500+

    7.9%
  3. Amiga 600(HD)

    11.0%
  4. Amiga 1000

    8.9%
  5. Amiga 1200(HD)

    29.3%
  6. Amiga 1500

    0.5%
  7. Amiga 2000(HD)

    13.1%
  8. Amiga 2500(HD)

    1.6%
  9. Amiga 3000(T/UX)

    4.7%
  10. Amiga 4000(T)

    6.3%
  11. Amiga CDTV

    2.1%
  12. Amiga CD32

    17.8%
  13. Amiga Prototype (1000+/3000+/3500/Other)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Amiga Compatible (Draco/Access/Minimig/Pegasos/MIST)

    3.1%
  15. AmigaOne (SE/XE/MicroA1)

    1.6%
  16. AmigaOne (500/X1000)

    0.5%
  17. Emulators - I don't have real Amigas anymore :(

    20.4%
  18. Emulators - I've never seen/owned a real Amiga, but wish I did!

    7.3%
  19. My Amigas are all original - no mods other than original expansion cards, accelerator cards, RAM car

    11.5%
  20. My Amigas feature modern-day modifications such as DVI/HDMI/IDE/SATA/USB/RAM/CPU/GOTEK and CF upgrad

    10.5%
  21. I own a mix of original and modified Amigas.

    13.6%
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  1. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    For new stuff, yes. I was talking specifically about the site above where the fine fellow is copying 30+ year old software.

    At that point, even paying the rights owner isn't rewarding the original developer. And paying someone for a fifth hand copy on eBay is just bananas.
     
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  2. power

    power Member

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    Well EA, Ubisoft and even Codemasters did publish a LOT of software on the Amiga :D LOL.

    oh so the thingy, that looks pretty damn cool - I will for sure be looking into one.
     
  3. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    Would be grand if I could still buy it from them.
     
  4. power

    power Member

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    oh god no, haha.

    man i wish my CD32 had a parallel port for this adapter thing. It's still the thing that bothers me the most about it that transferring files means pulling the CF out of the machine each time.

     
  5. Flamin Joe

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    I agree with you 1000% on this. I've probably spent thousands on not only hosting fees for my website but on procuring hardware, manuals, disks, schematics not to mention the countless hours spent creating the website and all the scanning, taking photos, extracting data off floppies/ROM's I've done to provide content.

    I've had manual websites rip my content and put it behind a paywall, I've had people rip the logo I spent time creating myself and use it on their website without even asking or giving credit and I'm sure some of the many photos I've taken had made it onto other peoples sites too. Sure it irks me a little that people do this, especially the manual websites charging a fee for something I purchased and spent hours scanning/cleaning up to make presentable but I accept it as the risk for making it free to access. I created the site with the sole purpose of preserving this small part of computing history and get all this information out there which before my site existed was extremely difficult to find. That's my reward.
     
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  6. power

    power Member

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    nothing worse than people who take shit and just sell it when it's not theirs.

    i feel this way about china piracy boxes, and get pretty pissed when retro youtubers post favourable reviews of these things partly based on the amount of stolen content provided on them.
     
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    breech

    breech Member

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    Maybe you could use a CF extender to have it outside at least?
     
  8. power

    power Member

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    i prefer to complain, that's my style.
     
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  9. flu!d

    flu!d Never perfect, always genuine

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    Whinger.

    ;)

    That's where the C64 is good, I FTP files to it directly using FileZilla or similar. I can actually do it directly from my PC's file system like a network share.
     
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  10. bester

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    I meant to post this earlier, but it seems there are a small amount of TF1260's in existence:

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    The above pictures are taken from the following thread:

    TF1260 stuff

    An update on the status of TF is here:

    Terriblefire State of the Union....
     
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  11. Grant

    Grant Member

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    Good to see he's doing okay, the biggest loss is probably his deleted Youtube videos. I assume the stuff from Github is mostly mirrored around the place.
     
  12. ohayes

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    I still don't get why people in the Amiga community try to drive out guys like TerribleFire - we all rely on people like him to create great upgrades that are affordable.
     
  13. power

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    i think he was a little too engaged with the community which is nice and all but yeah he should have pulled back and just done his thing and kept to his own schedule if he wasn't coping.
     
  14. flu!d

    flu!d Never perfect, always genuine

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    Personally, I think TF may have been the one that buggered up himself. As far as I was aware, the project was open sourced on GitHub - I thought that was the whole point, to create the first open source Amiga accelerator that anyone could build themselves.

    Then, all of a sudden he chucks a whammy when someone else builds and sells the device, and deletes everything? I'm sure there's something I'm missing, but that appears to be the broad strokes as far as I'm aware.
     
  15. power

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    yeah that too, i mean you either want it open source or not.
     
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  16. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    Very few people actually understand open source. There's a great misconception from both sides that it's "non commercial", which is complete nonsense (commercial mobs think it will ruin their ability to make money, non-commercial mobs think it will prevent evil corporates from using their code to make money. Both are wrong).

    There's a lot of infighting on a prominent open source retro gaming platform right now where the lead developer got paid handsomely to port the project to another platform. The existing developers all cracked the shits and said their work was "uncredited" and "stolen", yet there was NOTHING in the open source license preventing commercialisation of the code (quite the opposite in fact, the license was GPL, and pro commercialisation by design). Likewise nothing mandates every developer that ever contributed ever be publicly thanked for their work.

    When presented with this evidence plainly, the devs in question changed their tune quickly, and started talking about the lead dev "being a dick", rather than their previous angst over it being borderline illegal. But the whole thing showed me very quickly that even folks who are quite intelligent in a specific domain really have little concept of what the licenses they willingly release their code and designs under actually allow people to do, completely legally, and with no room for emotion over whether they feel that's a "dick move" or otherwise.

    With all that said, there are open source licenses you can choose to explicitly prevent commercialisation of your code. Creative Commons have an excellent flowchart / interactive questionnaire you can do to help you choose this. But if you select the usual GPL/MIT/BSD/CC licenses, 9 times out of 10 you're actually making your code very commercial-friendly, because THAT WAS THE DESIGN.
     
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  17. flu!d

    flu!d Never perfect, always genuine

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    I don't think that's what happened in this case however, unless I took things the wrong way.

    Terriblefire was openly promoting this device as an open source 'build it yourself' type of project, it's actually one of the reasons I became interested in it as I thought it was an awesome and selfless concept that could only benefit the community. Of course, the confusion could very well have been at my end...
     
  18. power

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    yeah other people were already building the previous ones without issue something weird happened on the last project though.
     
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  19. flu!d

    flu!d Never perfect, always genuine

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    It's a shame we can't have more truly open source solutions for our 30yo gear. It's most likely the reason why mass storage like SD2IEC and User Port WiModem's on the C64 have remained so cheap and readily available. Especially when you consider that the Motorola 68k processors used in such accelerators are usually pilfered off second hand devices.
     
  20. ohayes

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    Another thing that I wish was open source - Kickstart and AmigaOS. It would be worth crowdsourcing for to get rid of Hyperion/Cloanto!
     

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