The Apple ][ Thread

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  1. Gibbon

    Gibbon grumpy old man

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    The high school I went to bought it's first computer when I was in around year 8 - so maybe 1983? It was an Apple ][, though I'm not sure of the exact model. Maybe it was a europlus.
    I remember they used to have a booking system, where you would book a 30min slot to use it before or after school :D

    Fond memories of using Logo to guide that little turtle around the screen drawing stuff :)

    They bought a second computer a couple of years later, which was a //e. Heh, things have changed a bit.
     
  2. pksw

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    I was about to post the exact same links to #1 and #2.

    elvis - If you are handy with a soldering iron, it's not hard to find your own laptop PSU, I can try finding the correct details if you wish, but pretty sure anything from 12-20V laptop power is ok, and just wire up the DIN connecter.

    I have purchased a Wdrive from http://kboohk.com/cart/index.php?route=extension/d_blog_module/category&category_id=5
    It is the same kind of thing as a floppy emu. It supports WOZ file format, which is increasing in popularity, which allows images to be taken from copy protected disks and saved in this format. It supports hard drive images and 800kb 3.5" floppy images to be booted as "smartport", and also regular DSK images too.

    I'll post a few pictures from my //c worklog soon - I'm currently trying a few things. I have the //c drive switcher, which allows the internal/external drive to be switched, and also a few different ROMS I want to trial.
     
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  3. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    What's the compatibility rate on a IIc like with these? I was reading up and got myself a bit confused. Can you boot straight from a 2mg hard disk image on a IIc? Or do you need to boot from a floppy image first, then mount the hard disk, then run it?

    I'm happy just to go with individual .woz images if a single .2mg is too difficult, or has too many gotchas. I think for the intended user, consistency is more important, so an SD card filled with .woz files is a better option if they all work the same way, and are simple to select and boot.

    Looks like the wDrive is the cheapest so far. USD$74 / AUD$104, which is still a bit on the expensive side.
     
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  4. pksw

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    You can see the wdrive connected, and just make out the drive switcher at the back.
    I can run 4am's total replay from the wdrive, but currently trying to bug fix the ROM4x patches for better compatibility.

    There is some issue where the iic will boot the smartport hard drive image but as some memory address needs to be patched, it can lead to compatibility problems with programs that use that memory space.

    But as I can't find where my joystick got to, I haven't been able to test a heap of games yet. It's somewhere in my house, or back at my parent's place, but I can't to a search during lockdown.
     

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    Cool - yeah a good review. Joe did an updated review with the latest firmware as well - can now preload a DOS image from ROM for instant boot to DOS :)

    I'm working on the //e version atm which will also support //c
     
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  7. pksw

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    Another nice product for all apple iis

    A Bluetooth joystick interface that works with both connector types. I'm definitely going to be ordering one and will enquire on shipping costs to Australia.
     
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  8. pksw

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    Got an email response and the joystick Bluetooth adapter is US$49 plus US$18 for shipping. First batch going to be available after Dec 1. Given the size, its probably not going to cost much more in shipping for multiple orders.
     
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  9. pksw

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    20201211_181408.jpg Got myself a colour PAL adapter for my iic... for the first time in it's life it is displaying colour! Taken forever to find the correct PAL/RGB connector, with several losing ebay auctions.

    Also got a joystick on ebay, and aXLe burnt me some ROMS to test, but my floppy emulator died, so can't use Total Replay anymore. Will have to wait a few months for a warranty replacement, given slow shipping from Hong Kong. Also haven't had time to test all the different ROMs, without a working wdrive.

    Once axle finishes the apple iic rom project, ill be sure to be one of the first to add that to the system, and it'll be complete.

    Also getting a iie, so I can use expandable cards, which will mean another upgrade project starts.
     
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  10. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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  11. QuakeDude

    QuakeDude ooooh weeee ooooh

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    I don't know why I keep coming in here.. all I do is go check ebay, get upset I can't find a ][ anywhere and leave feeling dejected lol. PKSW - where did you find your ][e?
     
  12. pksw

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    The prices on apple iis on eBay are out of control. Sometimes I wonder if they are fake, just to inflate the market price. It's cheaper to get things from the US, even with shipping fees. Saw a iigs go for over 2.5k.

    Haven't picked up my iie yet, a friend is giving it to me. I will post an update... got my Bluetooth joystick apple adapter, and it works well with my iic.

    So far I've added:
    Rom 4x
    Pal colour adapter
    Wdrive floppy emulator
    Bluetooth joystick adapter(can use any Bluetooth joystick)
    Second hand apple compatible joystick
    Fixed the floppy disk read error (found a write protect stickers jamming the motor)
    Waiting for axle to finish the iic romx adapter and it'll be complete.

    Then I'll start on a iie
     
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    2.5k for a IIgs? I've got one sitting in a box doing nothing. Might have to check that out...
     
  14. QuakeDude

    QuakeDude ooooh weeee ooooh

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    I probably don't strictly need one right now as much as I want a ][ again.. I've got a Mac SE sitting in the cupboard that needs a clean ..need to buy a virtual floppy adapter for it as well as a Scsi to SD card adapter as well to bring it back to life, not sure how long the hard drive has left in it..
     
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    I'm going to assemble a ROMXc at the weekend. We're still working on the ROMXe firmware etc, but ROMXc will be so similar that I'll but one together and run the IIe firmware just to be able to demo it (ROMXc will use 32kB images versus 16kB for ROMXe, so the write wont work but image switching should ).

    Im chasing an Apple ][ plus power supply if anyone has a spare that they would sell me? Working or not. I need a PSU for my Rev 4 Apple ][ plus for testing the 2513 character ROM's.
     

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