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Discussion in 'Geek Food' started by Goobers, May 9, 2011.

  1. ndt

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  2. Zee

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    That's an interesting mix - though I think I'd prefer larger sample bags.

    I find you can easily burn through 125g just dialling it in, and maybe end up with just one or two good shots, especially if your current grinder settings are way out.

    Good value, though!

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  3. brayway

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    Picked up a Breville Barista Touch on the weekend for $400, less than a year old, so far it's been running great, and better than the sachet coffee I've been having at home since selling my old machine.
    Major Wife approval factor as well, she's loving it.
    Going through a lot more milk than we used to though :lol:
     
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  4. MUTMAN

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    18.2 in
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    38.5 out

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    My favourite $2 Kmart coffee mug :o:Paranoid:

    The taste has nowhere to hide!
    Welcome to flavour country.
     
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  5. avexdevil

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    the colour of that crema...is unique. how is it so brown lol. was the shot taken long after the espresso was extracted?
     
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  6. MUTMAN

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    That's a long black :) The shot is even more mental :lol:

    Extracted the good stuff, add hot water. Drink with cold sparkling water.
    Delicious:)
     
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  7. Quadbox

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    Kay brains trust. I've got a super light specialty roast that I just cannot get dialled in with my current grinder (eureka mignon specialita) even down with the burrs chirping it's still not fine enough at an 18g dose in my BDB (so 58mm). Pulling turbo shots it's tasting amazing, but I'd really like to get it dialled in for actual espresso, cause these beans are quite something. My conclusion on that is that if I jump up to like a 24g dose and a bigger basket I might be in with a hope? Anyone tried similar with a light roast?

    Supplementary q, what do people think of Pullman's precision baskets vs vst and ims? good enough? I could go grab a VST for $55 from alternative brewing plus the annoyance of dealing with them (god their retail service is bad) vs $34 delivered from amazon on the pullman, so if they don't suck I'd go the latter... anyone got experience?
     
  8. waltermitty

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    i think it's just the way light roasts are, it's a lot of effort vs a pourover compared to reward...
     
  9. avexdevil

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    the nature of light roasted coffee prevents you from pulling a traditional espresso shot. underdeveloped roasts generally results in less trapped co2 and less oils which are not conducive for crema formation. people who tend to brew espresso with light roasts tend to enjoy them as turbo shots as you have just experienced, so what you're attempting is basically forcing a square peg to fit in a round hole.

    but yes, if you want to insist on trying, updosing is probably your best shot (pun intended), short of going down the rabbithole. This can include realigning your burrs or getting a more specialised burr set, or better still, modding your bdb to pull a slayer shot. It's essentially an extended preinfusion time to prewet the puck at low to no pressure before hitting it with 9 bars of pressure. this results in a little more crema and more intense flavour without the risk of over extraction from too fine a grind or overdosing, precisely the limitations you are facing now with lightly roasted beans. (also the reason why i got my slayer). That said, you won't be able to get a light roast to extract exactly like a med-dark blend regardless of how many tools or money you throw at the problem, it's just...coffee science.

    no experience with pullman baskets, but i use VSTs religiously at home and at work, they're kinda the compromise between baskets crafted for old school espresso extraction and the modern high extraction baskets with holes from edge to edge. on that note, you're going to struggle more with getting a traditional espresso extraction with a VST basket than your stock BDB basket, because more holes = less resistance = less crema.

    why not try facebook marketplace?
     
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  10. Zee

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    So, this happened...

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    It clearly looks like some sort of mechanical battle oriented war beetle crafted by Klingons, however, it is, in fact, a coffee roaster.

    Capacity is claimed to be 1kg, though it's gonna sit around doing nothing for another day or so, as it seems ordering a coffee roaster and having it delivered from China is faster than ordering green coffee beans and having them delivered from a city just 200km away.


    Do you have room to over-dose the basket? I've done 22g in a 20g basket previously.

    Can't comment on the Pullman's, but seem to remember they all performed similarly on a Coffee Snobs post from many years ago.

    I actually have a 25g VST basket I'd send you for free (for science!) - except for the part where I'm in the Philippines, and it'd make no financial sense.

    Z...
     
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  11. NismoR31

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    I've been using Pullmans for a long time now. Have also used IMS in my previous machine & the Bianca comes with IMS, but their (Lelit IMS) baskets taper & I wasn't happy with them. The pullmans have been awesome.
    Never used VST so can't comment on them.
     
  12. MUTMAN

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    Autobots need coffee too
     
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  13. avexdevil

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    Reminds me of an episode from robot wars lol. You can tell they really hunkered down on the look with the ‘canon’ situated where it is lol

    If you can artificially wear the orange panels, it would look sooo bad ass.
     
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  14. Zee

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    Actually, the photo's don't show it, but they do already look a bit worn (it actually looks pretty sweet in real life).

    It could do with a little more "wear", but not sure how best to achieve that. Pretty happy with it, though, glad we opted for this colour.


    A quick Google search of the images shows that they actually look really nice (the Pullman), looks like thick walls, good quality though designed specifically for Pullman tampers (not that that is a bad thing). So I think making sure that whatever tamped is being used is no larger than a Pullman would be the only consideration.

    My tamper is 58.4mm, so in the interests of Science™, I'll buy one if my current tamper works (pretty sure Pullmans are 58.4 anyway).

    Z...
     
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  15. NSanity

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    I had a pergtamp and vst baskets forever.

    moved to weber RNT and buck. Be damned if i can notice the difference. I'll probably get a 20g basket again tho, the 16 isn't enough for espressos for me.

    I've thought about the 49mm conversion for the decent - but seems a huge fuck around.
     
  16. Quadbox

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    Thanks all, I had a 25-28g pullman basket arrive yesterday afternoon, and without too much trouble I've got it dialled in 1:2 at 28g. Friggin delicious. Honestly given I had to back the grind back a bit I could probably do it just fine at 25g too, but it was 28g I was playing with this morning.

    Rather glad, given my next thing would have been to faff about with burr alignment and that's a whole kettle of fish too much for the first weekend of the school holidays, especially when it's been fine bordering on great with pretty much every other bean I've thrown at it. This is just easily the lightest roast I've had in a couple of years.

    Zee yeah all I could manage over-dosing on the 18g vst was about 20-21g which didnt prove sufficient. Pullman basket seems very well made and short of getting a microscope quite consistent holes. Seems to work just fine with my normcore v4 tamper
     
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  17. NismoR31

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    My Lelit tamper is legit 58.5 & it fits perfect. Exactly the same as the IMS baskets it came with. Snug but not getting stuck snug.
     
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  18. Zee

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    Seems we have the same tamper - it really made my life easy.

    My current bean is actually at its best under dosed (crazy, I know...) at 17g in an 18g VST basket. Did I mention I'm not really a fan of super dark roasts?

    Off to Thailand on Wednesday, for Songkran with the family, so not really going to be doing any really testing before I get back in a few weeks, but I suspect I may dig up the 'ol 22g and 25g baskets I've got tucked away doing nothing.


    I suspect you've been watching Lance Hedrick's channel.

    If I get really bored, I may give the basket reducer thing a try for the heck of it, though I suspect going with a larger 58mm basket (eg - 22g, 25g etc) would achieve the same (similar?) thing.

    I also have a Pergtamp, and actually really like it, but I just suck so bad at tamping level that I just gave in and got the Normcore - problem solved.

    Not gonna lie, that RNT looks sweet...

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  19. NSanity

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    Hoffman and Lance make it in the algo pretty regularly.

    I think this is the logic behind it - https://sworksdesign.com/Billet-Basket-p515767358

    Depth dimensions on the sworks site kinda hint maybe not - but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

    Mmm the Perg is super nice - ~10 years and i still haven't dropped it.

    Literally all Weber's stuff is super premium. Eye wateringly expensive, but you can see where the money is.
     
  20. MUTMAN

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    but, but, the roaster !!
     

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