The Coffee Thread

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  1. BlueRaven

    BlueRaven Brute force & optimism

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    Appreciate the advice re. simply buying smaller quantities, and looking out for specials on 250-500g selections via ozbargain etc.
    When I'm shopping I'm usually trying to take advantage of economies of scale, even though I'm only buying for myself, hence usually getting a kg at a time.
    Vittoria on sale for $18 at ALDI tonight, so now there's another 1kg bag in the freezer... don't need to look for any deals in the immediate future at least. :)

    woja, I've only got a cheap Breville herb & spice grinder at the moment (it's served me pretty well for about 15 years though) and I'll usually let the beans warm up a bit in the Tupperware before grinding. But I haven't had any issues with beans straight out of the freezer in the aeropress.
    My favourite roaster stores all their beans in upright freezers, my friend there told me that roasted beans don't actually freeze since there's close to 0% moisture in them.
    If you grind them straight out of the freezer you end up with cold, dry powder. :)
     
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  2. cbwolf

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    Ugh - so this morning I ended up spilling an entire jug of milk onto my coffee scales killing them. You know, you'd think that a set of scales specifically made for weighing coffee would be at least somewhat water/spill resistant. Particularly since they cost about $120.

    Anyway, so for some reason (lockdown fever perhaps?) I thought it would be a good idea to splurge with a replacement set of scales so I got a set of Acaia Lunar in silver:

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    Note sure exactly what makes them worth $340 - but gee they're pretty :lol:

    Oh - and at least they actually are water resistant!
     
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  3. Plax

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    After WFH for a bit I've been experimenting (bored) and really enjoying espresso with a ristretto and dash of double whipped cream (maybe 10ml) in the mornings.
     
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    $340 for scales; eek. they do look nice but I can't dream of dropping that on coffee gadgets.

    on the topic of freezing - the aim of the game is to limit oxidation as much as possible, so having one bag that you regularly open and close isn't exactly ideal.
    Anything I buy more than 250g of get's split into roughly 250g portions and frozen in separate freezer bags - each bag lasts about a week (when tipped into the hopper), still far from ideal but I feel it does me alright.
     
  5. BlueRaven

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    For three greens plus two of the orange ones, I should bloody hope so!

    I'm now the proud new owner of a Flair Classic espresso press with dual portafilters/brew heads, courtesy of warney (A+ trader, thanks again for the very fast and easy transaction mate).
    Looked at the Quick Start guide online... "BLADE-TYPE GRINDERS NOT ALLOWED!"... :eek:
    I wouldn't want to annoy the Ancient Coffee Gods and I have this ancient manual steel burr grinder, so I'm giving that a cleanup.
    Got a set of digital scales on the way too, priced closer to $34 instead of $340...

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    Everything feels very solid and nicely made. Looking forward to having a freehand/guesstimate play with it tomorrow.
    The Flair "Royal Grinder" is a tempting next purchase, but I bet they're worth a pretty penny in dollarydoos for a manual grinder.

    I reckon the aeropress will still get a fair bit of use for those mornings when I'm just stumbling about in "need coffee now" mode.
     
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  6. 303-Acid

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    I think you will find blade grinders are not allowed for any coffee beans! :leet:

    I have a Hario hand grinder for my aeropress.
     
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  7. BlueRaven

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    I've found the aeropress to be reasonably forgiving, but yeah... no consistency whatsoever with the Breville grinder.

    Could you let me know which specific model of Hario unit you're using? Thanks.
    The old school manual grinder is going to get tiring quickly, and upon closer examination the burr has some impressive chips in it.
     
  8. Zee

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    How do you feel about single dosing? What's your grinder?

    *idiot edit* - just saw you have a Breville grinder, not sure what the retention is with those guys, but an option is to freeze your beans by dose, and grind as needed straight from the freezer.

    Just need to check how much your grinder retains, so you can keep your dosing consistent. May or may not be worth the faffing around - but that is your call :).


    Are you in Sydney? I have a grinder (forgot the brand) that is pretty much the Hario grinder, just silver - I think Hario just re-badged them and painted them black. Seeing as it is doing SFA right now, sitting in a box somewhere in my dad's apartment, I'd be happy to try and work out a way for you to borrow it until the time that I can actually come back to Aussieland, or at least give it a test run and see how it goes for you.

    Nice!

    I got mine in a pack the the Acaia Pearl, and a 100g calibration wait - though that was about another $150 on top...

    The value is in the build. I know of coffee shops that I visit that have had them running flawlessly, and still looking brand new after years - remember, that's a high volume commercial environment.

    There are also a couple of timing modes for espresso that are actually quite cool - like auto tare/auto start timer on the first drip, and auto stop timer after the last drip. Very handy when you're trying to be very precise with espresso - or even some manual brews (like V60), actually.


    Z...
     
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  9. 303-Acid

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    My mistake, after googling and seeing the pictures I actually have a Porlex Mini. I don't remember paying as much as they are now, $100, but I did get it years ago. It does give your arm a workout.
     
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  10. BlueRaven

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    Thanks Zee, I appreciate the offer. :)
    I'm in northern Sydney, and quite able to accept deliveries at the moment.
    I'll shoot you a PM.

    Thanks for that mate, I'll check it out.
    My arms will probably appreciate the exercise as long as I remember to swap hands each morning.
     
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  11. cbwolf

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    I kind of figured I'd rather just buy once and keep it forever.

    I also wanted to set myself up for my next purchase, which will be a Decent DE1XL coffee machine (likely next year or maybe Christmas). The Lunar is bluetooth enabled, so it'll connect to the DE1XL and enable the machine to track and control pressure, flow rate, volume and output weight.
     
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    Yeah, I keep forgetting to connect ours to our POS tablet - would be a fun little plaything for the baristas whilst they calibrate.

    The price hurt like hell when I bought my set, though the super long wait to actually have them delivered kinda ended up with me forgetting about the price, so now they are these really cool scales that I keep telling the kitchen staff that they can't touch, or I'll tie them to a chair and slap them with a wet tissue.

    Those Decent's look like a pretty cool machine, one of the roasters here uses a fleet of them for training. I feel like they've had a good few years to work out the kinks, and are probably a pretty solid purchase now.

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  13. BlueRaven

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    After a bit of time this morning operating a mini production line of "run beans through blade grinder --> sieve into bowl --> repeat", I tried pulling a couple of shots through the Flair Classic.
    My crema was pretty pathetic, the shots extracted way too fast with too little pressure so what I thought was a fine enough grind and big enough dose clearly wasn't.

    Both shots went into the big OCAU mug for a flat white anyway though, and still yielded a better cuppa than my "upside down aeropress" technique.
    Having two complete portafilter/brew head sets and a proper tamper included in the kit is going to prove a godsend.

    Definitely going to get that old burr grinder tidied up today and have another go a bit later. Hopefully my scales will show up in the next day or two.
    With the proper tools I have no doubt that I'll be able to get consistent shots out of this thing pretty quickly. It's a bit fiddly to use, but also quite fun. :)
     
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    Yeah, blade is shit for beans. You should get a more consistent grind with a burr which is what you want for coffee.
     
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    btw - it's a Sunbeam 0480 - which a quick google will show looks identical, with identical specs (except for colour) to the Hario.

    I sent a PM, let's see how it can be worked out.

    BTW - blade grinders suck - better used for something else. Not sure what, but I am sure there is something. Grinding down nuts for cakes and cookies, perhaps?

    Speaking of grinders, I noted that our coffee had been a bit "variable" over the last month or so, and had been trouble shooting the GS-3 like crazy trying to figure it out.

    Turns out the staff have not been cleaning the Ceado grinder the way they should be. Or... At all.

    I took it totally apart today (a very easy job with the Ceado, and no loss of settings either, unlike our Mazzer...), gave it a total going over, scrubbed every last bit of old coffee off with a toothbrush, and the thing now looks brand new.

    I look forward to giving it a good test run tomorrow morning. I also need to train the staff how to clean *again*...

    Z...
     
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  16. simontifik

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    RANT TIME!

    I wouldn’t have considered myself a complete coffee snob, I like a good one, I’ll happily drink a mediocre one. But I relocated from Melbourne to Brisbane earlier this year and HOLY CRAP coffee is hit or miss here!

    There’s decent beans here, I buy from local roasters to make at home and it’s good stuff. There seems to be machines everywhere, places there probably shouldn’t be (clothing stores, barber shops, Thai restaurants?!?). As far as I can tell no one knows how to use one. Loads of cafes with trendy decor serving absolutely rubbish coffee.

    I’m working as a delivery driver and slowly finding the odd place with a decent brew. As a consequence I’m drinking a lot more coffee at home. Commuting to work on my motorcycle with a keep cup in my pocket!

    /END RANT

    Here’s my home set up, pretty simple but I’ve always loved the coffee from a Moka pot, suits the black coffee I prefer.

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    Its overall height and response. Brewista makes a copycat, but its thicker (and slower to respond) and may not fit between the group head and drain with most cups.

    Regretfully, I need to sell my La Marzocco GS3 MP w/ Strada Brew Gauge Mod. Absolutely flawless machine - but i just don't have the counter space in my brisbane apartment. If anyone is interested, feel free to PM.
     
  18. BlueRaven

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    Pulled apart the old grinder, gave it a thorough clean and a couple of minor repairs/improvements. The burr/sleeve was in okay shape as it turns out.
    It's now basically "fixed" for an espresso grind with a small amount of adjustment for different beans.

    First attempt on Friday, meh ------> Saturday morning, getting better ------> This morning, make mine a double. :)
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    One of the best things about working a job that keeps you on the road a lot, finding a good coffee place in every part of the city. :)

    Need to get myself a new glass Keep Cup.
    I had a plastic one for ages but it ended up getting a permanent "old milk" whiff to it after a couple of years.
     
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  19. cbwolf

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    It's true. the 'average' standard of Melbourne coffee is significantly higher than anywhere else in the country. I presume the reason for this is because if you don't make great coffee, there are 3 cafes near you that do - so you go out of business.

    I lived in Sydney for a while, and regularly commuted to Brisbane for work - and was constantly disappointed with the coffee. Yes - there were a few places with good coffee, but you had to know where to go. In Melbourne, you can pop into pretty much any cafe and expect good coffee.

    With that said, I rarely get coffee from cafes anymore simply because I find it boring. The majority of cafes (excluding specialist coffee places) all use the same kind of dark roast bean that's forgiving and difficult to screw up as they hop between baristas throughout the day.

    Makes sense in a commercial setting where you need the coffee to be consistent - but it sure is boring compared to what I make at home with all kinds of weird and wonderful beans.

    Edit: As an example, I recently finished a bag of yeast fermented, light-mid roast beans from Jinotega, Nicaragua that were AMAZING!
     
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    This morning's coffee:

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