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  1. pugsley100

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    Real World Protection Tests for March to June from AV-Comparatives.

    http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/avc_prot_2015a_en.pdf


    Three stars go to
    Bitdefender
    Kaspersky Lab
    Avira
    Tencent
    Avast
    Fortinet
    ESET
    AVG

    Panda actually had the best blocking rate but got marked down a star due to high number of false positives.


    About the real world testing:

    This section contains full product long-term dynamic test reports. These tests evaluate the suites “real-world” protection capabilities with default settings (incl. on-execution protection features). It is our aim to do these tests rigorously. Due to that, these tests are time and resource expensive, so only products chosen for the yearly main test-series are included. Results are released monthly (from March to June and from August to November), together with two overview reports (July and December) covering four months each.

    Our award-winning Real-World Protection Test framework has been recognized by the “Standortagentur Tirol” with the 2012 “Cluster Award for innovation in computer science” and by the “Austrian Government” with the 2013 “Constantinus Award”.

    Beside the animated charts we have very extensive reports. Please have a look at them.
     
  2. mitsimonsta

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    In the cryptolocker world, I'd rather have false positives than it missing stuff.
     
  3. Fischbitz

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    Hmmm, I noticed no sign of any Norton/Symantec products in the comparison, piss somebody off did they?

    Cheers :D
     
  4. cdtoaster

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    funny isn't it, it was called windows defender in vista then they ditched it in 7 for MSE. now with 8 they're back to windows defender. i wonder what the difference is in terms of detection. is it the same app but with a different interface?
     
  5. Retard3dDonk3y

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    Agreed.. MSE + Adblock + common sense does wonders!

    On a slightly different note, does anyone here have experience with identifying and removing traces of a botnet?

    I suspect we might have that going on.. :Paranoid:
     
  6. qwertylesh

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    ADW cleaner will get rid of any nasty browser embedded infection which MSE and Malwarebytes fail to remove.

    for suspect systems, always put on malwarebytes anti-exploit free, to make sure if any nasty pages are visited, that exploits are blocked from execution.

    really bad systems should be combofixed, checked thoroughly for rootkit traces and if that + mse + mbam is not able to curtail the problem, wipe and start again.
     
  7. Bold Eagle

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    I had previously been using Panda but somehow they have really bothced up the code (or been hacked and themselves infected) as it was completely locking the whole system up all the way down to the OS level so that explorer, task manager, browser, etc, etc would remain in a state of not responding - completely hanging the system.

    This is a highly documented fault that has been around since at least May 2015 with numerous "apparent patches".

    I had not experienced anything like it and thought I had a significant hardware fault until I noted PSAN.....exe using 12% of CPU (this took 4-5mins before Task Manager would actually launch and I could note this as the only active process) which was part of Panda.

    I tried to end process tree and see if this was the cause and it didn't allow me (permissions restrictions).

    I hard shutdown PC as the restart and PC Shutdown options were "Not Responding".

    Restarted and issue presented again - PSAN.....exe using 12% of CPU and system "Not Responding" - this was also affecting the Network controllers, etc.

    Rebooted into Safe Mode and ripped that piece of shit Panda of the system via CCleaner (as I could not do it in the normal environment) - restarted PC and system was back to normal.

    This is occurring across OS (Win7, Win8.1, etc).

    DO NOT USE PANDA -
    http://support.pandasecurity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=2392
     
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  8. Retard3dDonk3y

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    hey man that HerdProtect is pretty cool!

    Saves me from trying a bunch of different scans :thumbup:
     
  9. d-dave-b

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    So I'd just like to ask what the general consensus is for Virus software.

    I've never run any, ever... I've always thought it was a silly idea because you can't really be infected by anything unless you infect yourself by clicking on something stupidly or going to sites that will likely do that to you... I don't and rarely have problems.

    Sometimes I'll end up with some malware or something which I just remove after the fact.

    Is Windows Defender sufficient for my needs? Running Windows 10...
     
  10. Bold Eagle

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    Depending on habits but WD is enough for the basic user who doesn't go to dodgy or high target sites (porn, gambling, torrent, usenet, Banks, etc.) but you can also have cloned sites and "drive by hacks".

    Personally it comes down to "browser" choice and sufficient addons. For example I use Waterfox (FF 64bit) with NoScript and AdBlockPlus and have not had any Malware since. NoScript stops everything until you build your whitelist and is a "must have" IMHO.
     
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  11. Mr B

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    Hey all

    I have read a fair bit of this thread to determine a good antivirus etc strategy - as I am about to get a new gaming pc build that I want to protect.

    Most of the suggestions suggest a component of commonsense.

    However, I have a couple of young kids who are just learning, and commonsense is not there - any click that is interesting goes (monitored of course, but they do tend to wander).

    What would you recommend for a good defense strategy for essentially unrestricted access to whatever dodgy sites they might find kids games on?

    Edit: I have Norton Internet Security on the current pc. Will be rebuilding this one in addition to the new pc - two subscriptions would suck, and not sure its worth it (??). Not sure that I have had problems with it, but settings changes etc drive me dingbats - e.g. had to do a restart tonight as the volume control couldn't be accessed as the taskbar access was maximized and unresponsive for some reason. Sigh...
     
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  12. azron

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    Supervision.
     
  13. Recharge

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    as long as these programs flag keygens as positive, they're simply not trustworthy.
    how do you know which is a real virus and which is a political and social police action?

    :tired:
     
  14. Bold Eagle

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    Give them locked down accounts only:
    http://www.howtogeek.com/111239/the...-your-multi-user-computer/?PageSpeed=noscript

    I wouldn't use Norton.

    Use AdBlock and NoScript in FF for the kids and yourself.

    Then use only the free versions off:
    HerdProtect
    MBAM
    SAS
    SB
     
  15. shawns_maggot

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    The safest bet, apart from strict supervision; is to create a virtual OS purely for your kids to play around in. Keep an image of the virtual OS once it's all setup. If you run into any problems, just reload the Virtual OS.

    https://www.virtualbox.org/ - Virtualbox is free and pretty easy to use. Once it's setup it's a breeze.
     
  16. hsvguy

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    Bumping this, I get quite a few customers asking about virus protection, and I normally recommend save browsing practices, the default Windows Defender, and running Malware bytes once every month or so.

    Wondering what people's opinions are these days on AV and Malware protection in 2016?

    I personally use Windows Defender, and run MB once every 6 months, and have never had any issues, but then again I run adblock plus and am a smart surfer.
     
  17. Bold Eagle

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    WD and then monthly run:
    - MBAM
    - SAP (SuperAnti Spyware)
    - SB (Spyware Blaster)
    - HP (Herd Protect)

    They all serve different purposes and complement each other.

    Browsing I use:
    - CyberFox (FF remake)
    - AdBlock Plus
    - NoScript

    The last one is the biggest saver of the lot as it halts all scripts until they are white-listed. It is a bit complex at first but over time the user builds their whitelist and can halt all malicious code (script) during browsing. Edward Snowden also praises it for safety and privacy on the net.

    http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/10/w...-shoutout-to-the-noscript-add-on-for-firefox/
     
  18. fcyde

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    Hmm this thread hasn't been updated in awhile...

    What are peoples choosing from for AV these days?
     
  19. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    I'm naked these days. Feel like I don't really need one much.
     
  20. ae00711

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    Herd Protect was my fav but they've been off-line for a while and still are, which is highly annoying, to say the least
     

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