The Great Big NBN Sticky Thread

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by Akh-Horus, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. Munki

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    Just awaiting NBN to ready service in our area so AussieBB can arrange installation. It's been 9 long years of crappy internet and it can't come sooner. If it all goes well, April 26 is go time for us. I'd already pre-ordered NBN with Aussie, so hopefully I'll be first in line.
     
  2. BuD

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    Aussie are great iniust changed myself over and get solid 95/35 all day long and have downloads at 10-11mbit still even though telstra cable benchmarked at 120 gave same speeds. Aussie BB app is pretty good to
     
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  4. caspian

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    that's for a 50/20 service with unlimited data, and either Optus Sport (whatever that is) or a home voice service with all national calls.

    Aussie charge $79 for the same data package, and $10 more for the voice service.
    TPG charge $70 for the data service with the voice service included.... but it's $10 more for unlimited national calls.
    Telstra want $90 for the bundled data and voice service, and it comes with 4G failover.

    the Optus pricing does not seem unremarkable to me. high speed data costs money, this isn't a decade+ old depreciated network.
     
  5. cvidler

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    no it's a century old depreciated network (for the majority of australia not blessed with glass)
     
  6. caspian

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    the average copper sync speed is 67Mbps compared to 8Mbps on ADSL. that was achieved through multiple billions of dollars of nodes installed closer to premises to shorten line length and improve performance, supplemented by multiple billions more of transmission uplinks, aggregation layers, and control systems.

    it's 837% better than the previous technology, and what the government of the day directed be done, and discussion on the subject is an utterly useless waste of time.
     
  7. samo

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    Quick question, looking to sign up to AussieBB and curious if I can use my Telstra Gateway Max (Netgear C6300BD) as the router & wireless AP. Moving on from Telstra cable. My understanding is that a modem will be supplied by NBNCo after ordering my service.

    Not interested in VoIP.


    Cheers.
     
  8. caspian

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    should work fine, it's just DHCP authentication for Aussie to my knowledge, and you are correct that a new modem will be supplied.

    if you can, find the TR.069 authentication settings in the modem and change them so it's not still phoning home to Telstra's ACS.
     
  9. BuD

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    i couldnt get my gateway max to work. everytime i plugged it in wan got disabled and HFC NTD( modem that will be supploed by nbn ) wouldnt see it
     
  10. samo

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    Thanks for that. Good to know.
     
  11. Loadingdread

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    The wait time for installs in some areas is ridiculous. I moved to a new place on the 30th of March. I informed my ISP on the 19th of march that I would be moving and was given an install date of 5th of May. Ive managed to get it moved to the 29th of April but its still a pretty big wait.
     
  12. caspian

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    the install timeframes are publicly available in table 1.1 of this document: https://www.nbnco.com.au/content/da...chedule-nbnEthernetProductModule-20190328.pdf

    your ISP has selected an outside SLA appointment time and has thus waived the SLA. they have perfectly clear instructions that have existed for literally years to contact NBN for an accelerated appointment time inside SLA if one if not offered by the the system. apparently they have not done that.

    additionally, this time of year always sucks for lead times... there are three national public holidays in the next fortnight, which impact the business day count.
     
  13. Doc-of-FC

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    Hey Caspian, how fixed are the NEBS FTTN profiles? e.g. can they be added to with new values like uncapped upload /download, whilst my 50mb down is great and mostly adequate, my upload is fundamentally capped, my max down according to the RSP is 60, although I'm mostly after increased upload.

    Do you think we'll ever see an uncapped up/down for sub 100/40 customers on FTTN as a midway option between 50/20 and 100/40 or will NBN hold out for FTTDP?
     
  14. caspian

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    I had a much longer reply typed, but it was a long winded way of saying - I don't think so. there's too much hardwiring in behind the speed tiers to change it without significant demand (and potential profit) to justify the cost in the short to medium term.

    FTTC is somewhat of a hybrid where the DSL link is allowed to run at up to max 100/40 speed and speed tier control is (largely) implemented elsewhere, had that been done from the outset with FTTN then there might have been more scope to go to an uncapped product construct. unfortunately both were modelled off the original FTTP vision that allowed people to pick the service they wanted to pay for, in the expectation that everyone could have every choice open to them.

    I expect that the current speed tier model will eventually evolve as demand for different speeds and UL/DL bandwidth combinations improves, and the network improves to support accessing them, but I also expect that FTTN will being actively phased out by the time that happens. in the meantime I'd be looking to initiatives like carrier supported bonding to open up bandwidth.
     
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    Thanks for the info. I called Telstra and let them know and they just kept repeating that the earliest date that NBNCO can give them is the 29th so I guess I'm waiting till then.
     
  16. caspian

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    question... why are you going with Telstra?
     
  17. BuD

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    I plus 1 this question :)
    Way better providers out there at a lower cost to as a bonus
     
  18. Gibbon

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    So I've decided I can't cope with another year on 4/1 ADSL, and have grabbed an Optus 4G home modem\router and a month-to-month $80/500GB plan. Seems OK so far, speeds over the last week have mostly been over 40/20 where I live.

    Not 100% sure 500GB/month will be enough for our house, but it probably will be. I'll let it go for a month or so and then cancel our ADSL.
     
  19. Quadbox

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    Seeing a lot of telstra techs out remediating pits in st lucia at the moment, which makes the jan-march forecast start to actually sound like it might happen :)
     

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