The NBN 'spin'

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  1. vladtepes

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    From the latest Public Service News (psnews.com.au)

    They may have neglected to mention a few things...
    - Most customers aren't on HFC.
    - Customers on HFC aren't getting 1Gbps (maybe a 1/10th if in the top 1% of NBN users)

    But I'm sure it sounds fancy to people who don't know any better.

    I just wonder if NBN recognise their own spin... or actually believe it !
     
  2. Tinian

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    Even worse is that a research project in mid 2019 is hailing a broadband network delivery that is approaching 30 years old can now get 1Gbps.
     
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    Corporate spin at its finest...


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  4. Hive

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    Great for the 15-20% on HFC. For everyone else on FuckyouToTheNodeintheass the reality is bleak. 25.1/8 is what i get at home.

    12 years ago i got that download rate on ADSL2.
     
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  5. caspian

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    most customers aren't on any other single access technology either, HFC should eventually cover something in the order of 3 million premises.

    every customer on HFC will be able to if they want to, though. the vast majority of people on the fibre that the zealots cling to don't have anything faster than 100Mbps now despite it being available for something like 4 years now. a lot of people choose something less again.

    the article is about demonstrating the capacity of the network to support gigabit services only.

    the only spin I see is that coming from your comments. the media release NBN put out is entirely factual. https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-...ements/nbn-demonstrates-gigabit-future-of-hfc
     
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    FaStEr ChEaPeR SoOnEr
     
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    I for one bow to the HFC gods and eagerly await my provider to offer me a 1Gbps plan via my HFC connection :thumbup:
     
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    Well... they imply that FTTN customers will end up on HFC in some ways, which we all know isn't the case generally.

    I don't think in 2019 bragging about HFC looks professional at all really, so it comes across as spin from that aspect.


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  9. Hive

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    But isn't that 10Gbit/s down 1-2 gbit/s up on the docsis 3.1 spec for the entire segment of coax?

    Rest of the world: Decent internet
    Australia: WE HAVE COAXIAL CABLE!
     
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    Yeah it's not good... much of Europe had coax internet as standard over 20 years ago.

    God knows why NBN would think this is something to be proud of. :rolleyes:


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  11. caspian

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    do you realise that the current fibre solution only has 2.5Gbps downstream/1.25Gbps upstream available for 32 premises?

    but fibre is the answer to everything, if you believe everything posted on Whirlpool. the actuality is that coax is a very good broadband delivery system.
     
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    I was getting stupid speeds back in the late 90's with flOptus cable (may have been very early 2000's).

    Z...
     
  13. power

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    there is gonna be a shitload of ppl on HFC.
     
  14. caspian

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    they say no such thing whatsoever. if you are getting FTTN it's because there is no HFC passing your house so that is impossible.
     
  15. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    As I do also :thumbup:
     
  16. Hive

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    "Shitload" doesn't compare to the "MetricFuckTon" of people on subpar FTTN. This is 2019. 25/5 isn't an acceptable "minimum" for a 100 billion dollar infra project.
     
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  17. power

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    sure thing.

    https://theconversation.com/around-...risbane-have-the-oldest-nbn-technology-115131

    here's a pretty picture.

    upload_2019-7-19_14-41-48.png
     
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  18. caspian

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    the number of people on both technologies should be fairly similar once the network is completed next year.

    [edit] that graphic power posted shows that clearly, although the attached commentary from whoever wrote the article defining HFC as "inferior" is dribble. HFC meets the needs of the vast majority of users entirely well.

    as to performance, talk to the government. they set the expectations for achievable performance, and dictated what technology be used to achieve that. any change must start with that direction being uplifted.
     
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    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    It is if you are a Liberal party MP who thinks the internet is just a big entertainment system.
     
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    Question.
    For those of us on Fibre, who will sell me a plan that is more than 100mbps?
    Because TPG and it's subs won't. (I have asked)
    Telstra won't (I have asked)
    Optus won't (I have looked, but found nothing)
    AussieBB won't (I have asked, but I don't live in one of three small towns in vic, so - denied)
    Myrepublic won't (I don't live in wollongong)
     

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