The "Red October" - A rebuild log

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  1. King Salmon

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    Hey guys,

    There is a bit of a back story to this machine, but It's too long winded to explain in full so I'm going to try provide a brief synopsis. It was built in 2010 as a super awesome gaming muncher for a friend of mine. It was considered a top tier machine back when everyone was keen on socket 1366. It saw some limited general use and gaming before my friend moved residence in 2011 and the machine remained switched off and untouched for two whole years, left to gather dust in a dark and lonely corner. How sad. However, the friend who abandoned this machine now shares residence with myself, the other day when we were trying to find some loose HDMI cables around his place i stumbled across it, asked nicely if i could keep it, offered money, but got it for free anyway. Win. So, I've taken it back to mine to see if I can get this once proud and powerful machine back to its former glory. Here are some pics.
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    The case is an Antec Dark fleet -85, and yes, that orange coating around the top is rust.
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    Forgot to mention that vast entirety of the machine is in a pretty grim state. My friend used to smoke quite a bit and never actually cleaned his rig or its dust filters, so it smells like a mixture of sweaty balls and 16 packets of Winfield cigarettes. I wiped my finger across the roof of the PSU and my my finger got covered in a black disgusting slime.
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    Cable management is atrocious. The person who built it obviously rushed it, and had no concept of aesthetics at all (It looked like this before i took the GPU's out)
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    3 Fan cables is the total amount of wire on the back panel. Terrible cable management.
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    The rust covered roof, 140mm fans considered salvageable.
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    Pictures don't do justice as to just how disgusting this machine really is.
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    2 Free 500GB drives. Apparently there is a copy of windows ultimate on them and a metric tonne of games. Bonus points.
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    The best and most usable parts of the rig so far, the twin 5870s. Unfortunatly they wont find much use with any of my current machines, this picture shows the cleaned cards, I wish i had pictures of before they were cleaned. The heatsinks looked as if they were caked in mud. The retention plate on the backs of them have rusted screws, which i replaced, I tested them out after they were cleaned on my current machine (which is currently having severe registry problems) and they are working perfectly. The memory is old OCZ reaper memory. 2GB to a stick @ 1600MHz and a CAS latency of 7-7-7, which have also been cleaned.

    Full Specs:
    Case: Antec Dark Fleet - DF85
    Mobo: Gigabyte X58A UD5
    CPU: i7 930 @ stock clock 2.8Ghz
    Mem: OCZ Reaper 6GB kit 1600MHz 7-7-7
    PSU: Antec Quattro 1000 Watt
    Graphics cards: 2x XFX HD5870 XT's in crossfire
    Storage: 2 WD Blue 500GB drives - one with an os and other for games (supposedly)

    So kiddies, As most of my personal systems are using hardware more advanced than this (with the exception of my home PC running a 560 Ti hawk with equal processing power to one of these 5870's) I have absolutely no Idea how I'm going to put this system to use (maybe folding?) - something which I'm going to decide on later. But for now I'm still in hardware mode. The case has got to go. Its rusted to all buggery and looks hideous - considering buying another fractal case (R3 or R4) and slamming the hardware in there, adding the old red fans and making a black and red colored build and retaining some silence - also I've always wanted to make an AMD build just for the hell of it too, So I was also considering trying to find a 1090T on the cheap or something and overclock the buggery out of it with liquid cooling. But it seems a waste of a good i7. I hate the color scheme of the mobo as well, looking into potential replacement. As for now though It's still a matter of cleaning the slime and grime out of it.

    I'm open to any ideas on hardware upgrades and future purposes for this machine - so throw down some tips and opinions.

    I may not be updating this machine's build progress for some time as i have just bought another rig (Which I shall do another build log on by the end of next week)

    - Lots of love, M~
     
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  2. tiro_uspsss

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    :eek: that's a nice lot of hardware for free! :thumbup:

    I've never understood how some people have such rusty cases :confused: none of my cases have ever rusted (or at least not that much that I notice / depicted in OP).

    Clean it all up, whack it in a new cheap-ish case, sell it. Here or gumtree. Heck, don't even have to get a case, sell it as a combo etc.
     
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    King Salmon

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    I did consider selling it, but then I would feel bad for getting a whole load of free hardware off my friend who lives with me, and then turning a profit off of it. It would be immoral. :Paranoid: Might turn it into a server/folder/guest gaming rig

    Also If people also think of a better name for the PC than "SchiessGeist" - please feel free to make a suggestion :D

    EDIT: I neglected to mention the rust is due to friends old place being right next to a beach. I'm surprised how it chewed through the paint.
     
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    Paint job on a PC case wouldn't be undercoated with primer, and sitting there unused/untouched it'd end up covered in salt deposit. Double-whammy. If you wanted to repaint it you'd only need add a bit of elbow-grease with a fine wire brush and a touhup with rust convertor/primer to the preparations. It only looks to be surface rust.




    Definitely a nice pickup, and a good thread concept. Looking foward to hearing how you proceed with it :)
     
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    Thanks for the input Catweazle - As far as repainting goes I might give it a shot, but I'm not a fan of the the look of the dark fleet, I'm all for showy gaming rigs but this thing is just huge, imposing and has plastic rivet things holding the window onto the side panel. The side panel also looked like a swamp before I ran a high pressure hose on it. It also has a hot swap bay on the top of it. I hate them with a passion. I'll give cleaning up the case a shot, but don't hate me if i decide to buy another one outright, If I buy another case, It'll be small form factor and black, I'll probably coat the I/O shields of the motherboard and the Graphics cards with black plastidip for a flush look too.
     
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    UPDATES!

    Well, after a refreshing early morning surf on my day off and my main PC taking a dump on itself I decided that I have nothing better to do than pull apart this rig and try and tackle the mass of rust, dust and cables and see what I can salvage from this case. First on my to do list was pulling the mass of tentacles coming out of the power supply out of any remaining motherboard connection and pull that out, but the previous builder made this difficult for me by doing something that I had never seen before, which was this:
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    Daisy chaining the fan molex connectors - there was a total of two of these things in the system, now I originally thought that they wouldn't give me any grief, but that was until I saw that each of these molex cables had the fan power connectors coming out of it and somehow joined to the rest of the fustercluck of cables and then tangled around the 24 pin as well as all the front panel connectors. Decided that I will try and get some cable sleeving for these things because trying to trace your finger over two separate red and black cables became frustrating when you lost which cable you were following. I unscrewed the two back fans and the two top fans, at the top of the case is a tiny little fan controller which controls the speeds of both sets of fans. After taking them out is was only matter of disconnecting each fan from the controller and tracing the power cables back to the daisy chain and disconnecting and untangling. It was surprisingly simple despite looking a little like this...
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    This is what the backs of the fans looked like before I cleaned them, If you ran your finger across the gross parts and then smelt it, It smelt like what I can only describe as the dirt on an unwashed potato
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    All the case fans came out, and I Started to dismantle the power supply, once it was out, I gave its casing a wipe down with rubbing alcohol, which got most of the horrible slime off of it, The PSU, to my surprise, didn't come with a large fan on the bottom for cooling, but had a puny 80mm fan in the back of it, which was also in a gross state, I took off the fan filter and gave it a solid clean too, Thanks to the terrible thread on the fan screws however, I was unable to put the filter back in place because every time I tightened the screws, the fan would be pushed further into the PSU, So I had to lift the fan up and tighten at the same time, Will install a magnetic dust filter in future. But for now it should suffice. Here's a refurbished and renewed Truepower Quattro
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    Next on my list was the hard drives, easiest thing to remove thus far, also caked with dust, rolled some cyber cleaning putty on it and made them look like new.
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    500GB and 16MB of cache and are both only SATAII, not really worthy of top tier performance, but they get the job done, If I cant make use of them I'll make them into a porn stash or something, But I've set them aside on the clean and usable hardware desk for now next to my model Monaro.
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    Next up was the motherboard and any other bits of stray hardware (Optical drive) - The motherboard is surprisingly dust free considering the rest of the hardware was putrid. The stock CPU fan is a little on the dusty side, but other than that its rather clean, although when i run cyber putty over it it might prove otherwise, I'm going to remove the Intel heat-sink and replace it for something more substantial, I'll put a vote to the people to decide what kind of cooler I should look at, but I'm leaning towards a general black theme, so I'll let anyone who's actually interested in this build make suggestions. If someone finds a place to buy "be quiet!" products in Aus, please let me know. Otherwise a cheap liquid cooling all in one would be G.
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    Up until pulling the motherboard out and sitting it on top of a box have I really had a decent chance to glance over it. The UD5 has a decent feature set, boasting Dual bios, support for Sata 3 and two PCI-E 16x lanes, although my only gripe with these is that to use both of them you have to sandwich your graphics cards together and they wont breathe too well, the old gigabyte color scheme also makes me want to blow my brains out, but you cant argue with the price of three easy payments of $0.00.
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    The last piece of the puzzle, the rather dusty pioneer OD comes out, Optical drives are pretty useless these days, but I'm holding onto this one and using it to install the OS on my upcoming "Ice Titan" gaming PC project. Now with that out of the way I just have the bare bones case...
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    Still need to take the front fans and the sata cables out, and then I'm done. Here it is again from the front:
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    Also have thought of a better name for the rig, It will now be called "Red October" - after the fictional soviet submarine, so comrades, stay tuned for more updates whilst I try and make this computer as communist as possible.

    ~M
     
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  7. tiro_uspsss

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    nice work! :thumbup:

    Did you run an air compressor thru the PSU? Would highly recommend it! :)
     
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    Negatory, not yet anyway, I'll probably get a chance to before It's put to use again though. I dont own an air compressor but I have a mate around the corner from me that does, So I'll ask the next time I see him.
     
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    Trust me, you'll want to do it! You'll be surprised how much crud will come out! :Paranoid: :lol: :thumbup:
     
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    I actually think the rust looks cool. Guess the pics don't make it look as bad as it probably does.
     
  11. sammy_b0i

    sammy_b0i Laugh it up, fuzzball!

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    Get the dust filters out of the front case fans. That should be a disgusting tale. I don't mind the DF-85. I've got one in the cupboard here. Much better condition than that, though!
     
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    I did wonder when dismantling this thing today whether or not like the current car scene there is a community of people dedicated to rusting up an PC case and making the "Rat Rod" equivalent. :shock:

    As for the dust filter, I have already taken them out and flushed them of gunk, not as much of a horror story as you would think, I think the front fans were more gross to be honest.
     
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    the i7 930's are good chips.

    my current rig which will be 3 years old next month is

    i7 930 @ 4
    Gigabyte X58-UD7
    2xXFX 2GB HD5970's in Quad Crossfire.
    6GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000 8-8-8-24
    Corsair 800D

    Always loved XFX parts, and hated antec parts.

    I would sell the parts personally, but if i was to keep and build, i would buy a Fractal R3 or Corsair 400R, and build it into a spare gaming pc.

    Add an SSD for OS.

    If you are looking to sell, i will buy at least the video cards and or cpu/mobo off you :)
     
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    Yea, I'm starting to get that feeling with antec parts too actually. I used to own a P193 a while back and I hated it. The build quality is decent for the DF-85, the fans included with the case could be a little better, would love it if they were sleeved or something. The sleeving on the PSU could could be a lot better, it feels cheap and you can see right through it. I'm not going to be one to argue though, followed through on tiro_uspsss suggestion of blasting the PSU with compressed air, glad to say it no longer smells and is pretty much dust free too. Got around to running more tests on my graphics cards today as well in my general PC-
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    I was pretty pleased about the overall look of these two radeons in the fractal R3, so I'm going to see about perhaps getting another in titanium and doing some simple mods with parts I have lying around the house, like changing the LED board to red LEDs. After trying to remove the graphics card with the D14 looming over me and making my job harder I might go liquid with the CPU and get a corsair kit or something. It'll make it look cleaner too. I was having a few troubles today with the GPU fans though, I tested the GPUs prior to cleaning them and they were running warmer than usual under load, after removing the heatsink and cleaning all the gunk out, then reapplying arctic 5 it was running smooth at 35-39 idle and 70-75 full load. But I also noticed that the stock fan profiles made the fan speed ramp up to 54% on idle, not a problem i thought to myself, as my PC boots up with afterburner running, I could simply create a user definable fan profile and get the speeds down to 25-30 on idle and make the graphics card pretty much inaudible and run cool at the same time, however I noticed that when I switched to my 2nd card the fan was running at 54% despite displaying in afterburner that it was running at 20%, It also wouldn't change speeds when I set it to manual. When I start up a graphics intensive program the fan ramps right down until it gets hot and spools back up again. I suspect its a driver thing though because I'm using older drivers. A problem easily remedied. But, I'm not liking the look of the GPU retention bracket on the back, I've replaced the rusted screws but the bracket itself is oxidizing. Does anybody know if and where I can replace it with another similar thing, or better yet a complete, full cover back plate?
     
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    I think this a great rig !
    Wish i had it !
    Hows it going now ?
    Must have cost a packet when it was first built ,good luck mate !
    cheers :thumbup:
     
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    Well, its been a while since I've actually made an update on the rig. Here is what I've been doing all this time:
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    BUT! all the parts are here and ready to be put together, just got to get hold of a case and a a new CPU cooler and I'll post the build log. Not sure exactly when I will do this though, I'll be heading overseas for three months in June, so hopefully I can get it built before that. As for how much the build cost originally, it cost about 3.2 grand when it was bought in 2010. Hard to believe its only worth a fraction of the cost now.

    Decided that I'll be using this rig for LANs and just other assorted use, like a spare gaming machine. I'll put an SSD in it sometime soon too, considering picking up a Sandisk unit or a samsung 840 considering how cheap they are. All the hardware is going inside a Fractal R4 in either titanium or black (still haven't decided, and I will be using a H90 for cooling. I would have opted for a D14, they are a fantastic cooler, but I thought it was a pain to take the cooler our of the PC to upgrade my memory in my general rig, so I'll be going water cooled because I can safely say that I will put more memory in the rig should the need arise.
     

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