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The state of HDTV

Discussion in 'Audio Visual' started by Kookooburra, Sep 25, 2021.

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    TV reviewer and master calibrator says Samsung QD OLED is the best TV ever.
     
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    Now what do you think about the QD OLED?
    Seems pretty amazing from the few reviews coming out.
    I wonder if the Sony A95K will bring some extra hot sauce with heatsink and their processor?

    Here is hoping it can - I am itching to upgrade my Panasonic Plasma.
     
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    It sounds like the ultimate HDTV as you've got excellent blacks and brightness, supposedly 1400nits sustained, that's a far cry from say a 2021 sony x90j at 750ish.

    LG C2 is just 800ish, that's not the end of the world but 1400 is huge and should almost always hit the spot, but sub 800 can lack punch from what I've heard.

    The same reviewer(quantumtv) said Sony's entry x80k was a decent TV as well, so let's see what Sony does with their mini led range, and bare in mind Sony's top dog 8k is mini led not QD-OLED....makes u wonder.
     
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    Definitely like the colour science from Sony processor.
    Something how they got it just right - sprinkle a bit of magic pixel dust.
    I need to check this out in person. Would be good upgrading from the Panasonic Plasma - 8 years now but still going strong.
     
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    Another reviewer say the Samsung QD-OLED is the top dog.
     
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    Hmm, did Sony just release the best HDTV of all time?
    Sony mini led master drive backlight vs Samsung QD-OLED S95B.

    We still have the 8k models to come from both Sony and Samsung but they'll be hexy.
     
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    I'm taking back what I said about Sony mini led x95k, there's now at least 2 reviewers pointing out excess blooming, and issues in game mode.

    Blooming can certainly be decreased if not eliminated by much higher local dimming zones.

    Sony is famous for being cheapskates when it comes to zone counts on all but their $13000 tvs.....

    Samsung qn90b has much less blooming, however even that blooms in some instances although by all accounts is a very good TV.

    I'm not sure how much it costs to increase zone counts to 5-10000, but that would probably solve it even for oled fanboys.

    In the old days, Sony backlight master drive meant something, however unless Sony decide to significantly increase zone counts, their tvs will suffer blooming, especially the black bars in 2.35 content, and any scene that puts low zone count led under pressure.

    It's sad to think that Sony used to use high zone counts on their FALD TVs, yet for some reason are no longer doing so on even on their top 4k model.

    Just like last year, Sony's 2022 8k mini led will have approximately 360-700 zones and reviewers will sing its praises and re-think their oled love, slight problem, the $13000 outlay.
     
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    good old LED, still trying.
     
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    People being unaware and or tolerant is the problem.
    QLED could easily outdo oled overall, but unless dimming zones and blooming are taken seriously it's gonna be a tough sell on some models.

    Last yr the 8k samsung models had 1800+ zones, so with the new mini led backlight system, samsung 8k might be extremely good, but hexy.
     
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    software fakery to make up for the shortcomings in the tech.
     
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    What's fake about it...?
    You're obviously a oled fannyboi anyway, and that's you're prerogative, but oleds have their short commings, and as I said, if the manufacturers ever pulled their finger out they could discontinue oled.
     
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    if you don't know i won't spoil the fun for you.

    i'm not a fanboi of anything, no idea why you are so i dunno weird about this considering you started a thread and said all tv's are crap.
     
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    Nah, every single pixel needs to be its own zone, or talk to the hand. What? wait, that's what OLED is :lol:
     
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    So oled doesn't have ABL that's software monitored and controlled?
     
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    not even remotely the same thing. you do you i'm not here for a barney.
     
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    Not a fan of dodgy dimming, or low brightness, so that rules out most oled and would force me to buy $5000 small tvs in a bid to keep up, plus I have to worry about burn in.

    We're still waiting on Hisense u7g and u8g, both will be mini led, there's also u9g and a few 8k models that might hit the mark.

    Of course TLC make mini led, and they had a number decent tvs in 21, so they might be a force to reckon with this yr.
     
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    U sound like you're on the turps‍
     
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    nah i'd go you on the turps.

    some people are better left to figure things out for themselves and left alone.
     
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    I see, you don't want engage in discussion at a discussion forum....understood.
     
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    Kookooburra what is the purpose of this thread?

    I've read through 7 pages of your comments, aggrievances and complaints on (your comments summarised):

    - LCD can destroy OLED in brightness
    - Sony don't make good LCD's anymore
    - We only need blacks like the HiSense U9DG (when did that become a reference?)
    - LED can make OLED redundant
    - OLED only has 2yrs left
    - You wanting LED to eliminate OLED
    - Zone counts being of uber importance
    - Samsung will end decent LCD development, yet
    - No TV can outdo Samsung's QN90 range
    - OLED has "serious issues" like brightness and ABL ("serious".. seriously? wtf)
    - QD-OLED being inferior to LED, followed by
    - QD-OLED being better once you saw some reviews

    add to this a whole host of predictions about what LED manufactures should force OLED makers to do and vice versa; changing your tone multiple times on products from Sony & Samsung;

    and silly comments at members.

    The state of HDTV is simple:
    - We are spoiled for choice
    - 4k is the defacto standard
    - Mini LED and OLED are mature
    - We're seeing early days of 8k and

    panel tech is getting better every year.
     

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