Discussion in 'Retro & Arcade' started by Pierre32, Oct 27, 2019.
That would be so nice to have just for the sound card alone but I'm tipping with 10 bids already with 6 days to go I'd be priced out of it fairly quickly.
Feeling of late that it's getting harder to get the items I want without paying a small fortune.
Soundcards especially. Finding myself in 2020 as a budget buyer with no decent retro soundcards (never even owned an AWE or an Aureal, let alone Roland/GUS etc), I'm not holding my breath of ever having one, the way things have gone.
The above SBPro 2 was actually the card I grew up with during my teens. (not that exact card!)
Keep your eyes open and something will pop-up eventually. I would highly recommend an ESS based card if you can find one for a good price. They have great compatibility, and depending on the build quality they can have better sound quality too. IMHO ESFM is pleasing to the ears, and better than Creative's CQM OPL copy.
I also had a SB Pro during my teenage years and will probably never own one again. I'd love to have that whole machine back again if I could.
Pretty sure an ESS based card was amongst stuff I stupidly let go and/or chucked out a decade ago. Luckily I've got one ISA sound card remaining, which I have in my Pentium rig - AD1816 based, nothing special I assume, but it works.
It's mainly the above-entry-level soundcards that I used to dream about as a teen, which I've never had the opportunity of yet. Things like Munt and Fluidsynth are nice consolations.
No retro soundcards exist on the open market in my own country - as in, pretty much literally none ever - which adds the extra dimension of finding the right deal + the right international shipping.
The early Sound Blasters are also incredibly noisy in terms of RF interference. I don't get the whole OPL2/3 is best, a later ISA PnP sound card which produces clean sound and reasonable FM is a good tradeoff to me - later ESS, Crystal sound cards are great.
I posted an eBay link to a $40 SB Pro 2 + AWE64 bundle in the bargains thread about a month ago - reasonably priced retro still exists but agreed it is getting more expensive. But at the same time that means that there's more retro for sale - there's way more stuff on eBay than there was when I got back into it ~12 years ago. Finding a decent 486 motherboard or AT case was impossible but now they're common, just expensive.
Depends which way you look at things as well, I remember the AWE32/64 retailing for like $3-$500 back in the day does it matter if it costs $70-$100 25 years later?
Yeah that's a great point, assuming we can still expect good life out of the gear. I also baulk at spending $150 on a Model M just on the principle of it, but the mech I bought for my modern rig was $200
There are modern sound card projects too like the Orpheus, which promise the best of the old world, with modern features too and none of the old bugs or deficiencies:
Granted it doesn't have the same allure as the classic gear. This one's still on my wishlist though.
This is an interesting listing..
10 ISA sound cards for approx $130 posted from the US. This is the preferred non-Pnp 2316 chipset, genuine Yamaha OPL but unfortunately this model has no wavetable header.
Any interest in a group buy? This would be $13 per card plus delivery from recipient to other purchasers.
It's largely the same dude, that has access to e-waste though. If only we all could tap into that ... imagine the amazing rigs us OCAUers would share
I remember having these same discussions nearly 10 years ago about prices for retro gear. It's only gotten worse since then.
I'm glad I did the bulk of my collecting/hoarding back then, I don't think I could afford to start the hobby now.
Hopefully my old kit survives sitting in storage until I feel the urge to play with it again...
I've come across dead stuff of course but none of the working hardware I've selected for builds over the years has died on me so far (touch wood) - I like to think that using quality PSUs, keeping it all dust / moisture free, and careful storage are in the mix but who knows.
I certainly don't need one of those, and I'm in if we can get the numbers.
Depending what model Aztech card it is, it may support Disney Sound Source emulation if that is of interest to anyone.
Lol, I bought one of those a couple years back for $25 AU (+$$36.54 postage).
Crazy price now.
PVMs getting up there
I don't feel so regretful about buying a normal 51cm TV with component input now for $50 ....
it's not a sony, but it didn't cost more than a RTX 2080 super to get it
Imagine what a 29" PVM would go for.
Random unrelated Googling:
NZ has an oversupply of Amigas, send some to AU to build up some spending money
Like this 500 currently at $26