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Threadripper 3rd Gen

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by the_antipop, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. RnR

    RnR Member

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    And Zen 3 is still coming... I don't think Intel will sell anything in the second half of next year. Chips for laptops maybe.
     
  2. asho444

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    Even that would be questionable once 7nm makes it way the amd mobile team.

    Intel will certainly need some more price cuts to compete!
     
  3. PureFire

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    Seriously impressive results. A true top of the line all rounder lineup.
     
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    IO isn't the huge problem for most people, that most people think it is. x570 still has PCI-E at 4.0 speeds, plenty fast enough for most desktop purposes. As is DDR4.
    Oh sure if I am building a server cluster serving millions of users, different scenario.

    But I am still amazed at how brutal it is over the previous threadripper. Talk about a on generation improvement. Its 50% faster than the same cored part from the previous gen.
    However, knowing Ryzen 4000 is not that far away with a 10-15% increase across the board in IPC alone, and arguably better thermals. I feel like I should wait. I dropped $550 on my 3700x cpu, I still haven't fired anything really challenging up on it yet. I have some video projects coming up so we will see how that goes. Also I want Intel to come back at them with something semi competitive, so prices drop. I would be surprised if 4950x is at the same launch price of 3950x.

    Wow AMD has really turned things around.. Remember bulldozer, they couldn't' give those CPU's away. Now AMD are going to dominate in the $1000+ CPU section of the market.
    I imagine intel is still cruising of momentum. When the Ryzen 4000 series IGP arrive AMD will totally dominate that space. Even the 3000 series IGP is very competitive and they will be tooling up for it.
     
  5. chook

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    Clean cabling, new CPU
    And Intel don't know where AMD's goin' to
    Sleeved wires, black cable tie,
    AMD don't need a reason why
    They come runnin' just as fast as they can
    'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a HEDT man

    PCIe 4, RGB bling,
    AMD ain't missin' not a single thing
    LN2, 3DMark,
    When AMD step out Intel's goin' fark
    They come runnin' just as fast as they can
    'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a HEDT man

    Top compression, top render,
    And I don't worry 'cause I'm benchin' in Blender
    Time Spy, FireStrike,
    Scores so high they are outta sight
    They come runnin' just as fast as they can
    'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a HEDT man
     
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    Medication....... so overrated :)
    If people didnt step off the meds every now and then gems like this would never be unearthed :):)
     
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    11/10!
     
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  10. 335 GT

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    LMAO.

    Anyone else notice these new tr3 chips have made in Malaysia stamped on them?
    My Ryzen and AFAIK all ryzen are stamped made in China.

    I believe "made in" refers to the dies/IO packaging. At the Ryzen launch Lisa Su said there were only two places in the world capable of packaging these.
    Has Malaysia just come on line?
     
  11. Elyzion

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    China and Malaysia? That's only the packaging. The die is made by TSMC in USA/Taiwan isn't it?
     
  12. chook

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    Perhaps it really is mean't to mean, "Made in Not China, please don't tariff me"?
     
  13. RnR

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    'Made in Malaysia' was stamped on most (all?) FX series of cpu's.

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  14. 335 GT

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    It's a bit of a hodge podge.
    The chips are designed in America, the IO die is diffused in America by Global Foundries.
    TSMC diffuse the cores (chiplets) in Taiwan.

    It's all sent to the packaging plant where everything goes onto a substrate and gets connected together. Packaging isn't sticking them in boxes. It's arguably more difficult to do than printing the circuits.
     
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    Malaysia is traditionally where all AMD chips as far as I can remember back were packaged. Ryzen is the exception.
     
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    I have an Athlon 64 X2 here that says 'Made in China'. I think they swap as needed, to get the manufacturing lines to be updated to handle new cpus.
     
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    There you go. We learn something new everyday.

    Every AMD chip I've owned has been marked made in Malaysia, so they obviously chop and change.

    Cheers.
     
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    Diffused refers to the silicon, I/O die is GloFo in the US and the chiplets are TSMC in Taiwan. It's all put together in Malaysia - probably to avoid the whole USA-China debacle. My Ryzen 5 3600X:
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    How have motherboards vendors justified a price change from an upper ceiling of $1000 (Zenith Extreme/Alpha) to $1400 (ZE2) and $1600 (Aorus Extreme)?

    “Extra power phases” alone doesn’t justify the ludicrous price of the Gigabyte board so not sure how maths is being done here.
     
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    they haven't. their prices appear to be take it or leave it proposition. just for fun I specced a TRX40 build with the 3970X and Zenith II Extreme 4 x 8GB RAM, PSU and GPU, vs TWO 3950X Builds, each with the Crosshair VIII Hero, 2 x 8GB RAM, PSU and GPU and the two AM4 builds together were over $100 cheaper than the TRX40 build. :p
     

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