Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala": Discussion thread

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  1. stmok

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    Yes, its actually called Karmic Koala. :lol:


    Firstly, the official announcement is here.
    https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html

    Phoronix talks a bit about it...
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzA3OA

    For those too lazy to click any link, the highlights (under consideration) are:

    (1) Server version: Cloud computing features. Will be using API's of Amazon EC2. So you can build your own cloud!

    (2) Desktop version: They may use Red Hat's Plymouth. Also aim for lower boot times than 9.04...They want to do better than 25 secs on a netbook.

    If you don't know what Red Hat's Plymouth is about...
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_plymouth&num=1
     
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    When they say this, do they mean 'DIY cloud' or integration with EC2?
     
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    Hopefully this will also be good for intranet / cloud based web applications.
     
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    Damn. I was really pining my hopes on Kinky Kookaburra... :lol:

    Pity it looks like they're delaying the cosmetic makeover again. And I thought Jaunty was supposed to have the boot time revamp as well - it appears only Ext4 is helping Ubuntu in that department right now, but I suspect Windows 7 is still a little way off official release, so there might be some time left to clean things up a bit by October before the next level of competition heats up again.
     
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    Nah looks like they're considering it

    (from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html)

    The focus on netbooks will be good as well. If they can get all the devices supported for the common models (function keys, wireless, etc) out of the box it would be great.
     
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    that's what I thought.

    oh wait

    ..
     
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    I was hoping Karamelo Koala
     
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    Potential copyright issues there?

    Besides, do you really want MORE hints of brown? :lol:

    I use Xubuntu for one good reason...Because it isn't brown. :D
     
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    wow i'm out of hte loop... haven't even seen 9.04 (still on 8.10 :p) .... kinda over rebuilding my machines for cleaner upgrades tho :p even tho dist-upgrade is seemingly reliable since 7.04 > 7.10... but unless it improves performance over 8.10 I won't be going... 8.10 brought my little P3 to a slowdown, thinkin of goin back to 8.04 :lol: or i could upgrade the hardware ... naaaa
     
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    Thats because 9.04 isnt out yet :p Everyone is getting ahead of themselves
     
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    BAHAHAHAHA that'd explain so much ... is it in alpha stage? 9.04 that is
     
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    Let's hope they fix support for i865 chipset. Alpha 3 was borked. Alpha 4 was borked. Fingers crossed for A5. :thumbup:
     
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    Karmic Koala (9.10)'s release schedule is out.
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule

    The gist of the release dates...
    Alpha 1 => May 14th
    Alpha 2 => June 11th
    Alpha 3 => July 23rd
    Alpha 4 => Aug 13th
    Alpha 5 => Sept 3rd
    Alpha 6 => Sept 17th
    Beta => Oct 1st
    Release Candidate => Oct 22nd

    Final Release => Oct 29th
     
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    so I'm a bit to ahead of myself :p

    <20 second bootup with 9.10 =o

    What else can they do to improve bootup performance? I assume ext4 set as default will help things along..
     
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    Have they committed to a date for having streamlined BRTFS or EXT4 Mirror Volumes in the installation process?

    Don't get me wrong, the 46 hidden and obscure steps in the installer to use MDADM/EXT3 at the moment are great! But my Grandma always gets stuck on manually slicing up both RAID meta devices before formatting them. Poor old technology excluded woman, she'll get there one day.
     
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    so i did my update manager -d

    and i get the 9.10 alpha is available for upgrade today...

    ive only been on the full 9.04 for about a week :p
     
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    Well, you're not obligated to upgrade every six months - you could just sit on the LTS releases since they're the only ones that can upgrade from one LTS to the next without needing to upgrade to the versions in between.

    I like the 6 month release cycle. It means that any major changes to the OS are properly tested by users rather and bugs are squashed more progressively than having a mountain of bugs to fix once every 12 months. It would also reduce the backports load for developers.
     
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    I agree. They should have a whole new version every three months.
     
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    Depends on the goal of the project.

    Fedora does the same...But that's intentional, as their mission statement is: "Fedora is about the rapid progress of Free and Open Source software."

    While Ubuntu's focus is on usability...Annual releases maybe better for this project. (You'll have far less "niggles" compared to 6 month releases)...Then change LTS releases from every 2 years to every 3 years. (So every third release is LTS).
     

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