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[VIDEO] The Making of 'Cardboard Wonderland'

Discussion in 'The Gallery' started by ya3, Nov 15, 2009.

  1. SgtCaboose

    SgtCaboose Member

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    Dude, you didn't win because you didn't use a fully sick L series lens brah!

    Time to take photo: 1/200th of a second
    Time to shop cup into photo: 200 hours

    Fantastic shop, unbelievably good.

    Fuck Canon.

    Yes, consider this a vendor verdict, I look forward to hearing from Canons lawyers.
     
  2. FB008

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    Wait until you get home perhaps? :p

    Nice work ya3, but maybe the photoshop in extremis was your undoing...

    How long did it take in total for the 'chop?
     
  3. SyN

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    im sure you would be pretty damn happy if you look like her in the photo... no wait a sec youd be effin confused
     
  4. methd

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    i LOL at that. good chopping work.. very impressive, and to reiterate everyone's comments, perhaps your downfall in this comp as well.
     
  5. McChook

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    I know its been said, but here's my take

    The final result is brilliant, as is the process that gets you there.
    But at what point is a piece of art no longer a "photograph". The comp is called photo5, so by definition, they want a photo.

    Where's the line in the sand?
    There are few elements from the original photograph there, but so much of the image was added after the photograph was taken. The only part I would constitute as a photograph (in my eyes) is Rebecca. The rest of the piece, I don't think can be called a photo.

    2 cents....
     
  6. UB3R

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    yeah, subscribed so i dont forget.
     
  7. RyoSaeba

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    I think the reason it was not chosen as a finalist is probably because it looked too professional. The competition is ran for amateur photographers. When you start bringing in make up artist, studio lighting, pro standard PPing, etc, it's no longer in the realm of amateur photography.
     
  8. michael_

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    its mainly photoshop, thats why, im with McChook, whilst it is absolutely amazing and i would love those skills if its a photo comp then it should be strickly a photo with minimal PP
     
  9. triggerpeg

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    Damn after getting home i watched this and saw the mammoth work involved with this photo. But unfortunately its been over processed and become more of a illustration piece.

    So i think he judges might have seen this and ticked it off, favoring the more photo type entries :\
     
  10. Sir Ghallahad

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    In saying that its 'too much photoshop' for the competition, how many of you actually got it completely wrong with how much was actually done though? I really didnt think there was THAT much done to it before seeing the video, so why would the judges?
     
  11. triggerpeg

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    :handup: I picked it up. And if i can, i think the judges would have too.
     
  12. low-key

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    Sure that's impressive but I'm personally stinging to see the making of video of this masterpiece....
     
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    Eh... Personally, I always work to commercial standards. I judge images based on their commercial value (ie. would it be good enough to publish in a magazine?) To me, all that matters is the final product, because I know you can't produce a good final product without starting with a vision.

    Photoshopping needs a vision and creativity, just like photography. If it was purely technical knowledge, then the entire Adobe Photoshop development team should be world-famous award-winning digital artists. But they're not.

    I could have built the set pieces by hand, out of cardboard, and shot them all at once, but I didn't feel like. How does that have anything to do with my photography skills? ;)

    Anyway, as someone said, I doubt the judges knew any better.
     
  14. redhairkid

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    I like it! I'd like to see Scott Kelby do better.
     
  15. McChook

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    I didn't realise the true extent of the manipulation at first look, but the more I looked at it, the more I thought was digital.... But not as much as was actually done
     
  16. Dropbear

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    This is so true, let me quote it again



    Technically, I could do everything that Ya3 did in photoshop in that shoot. Once you learn the skills, it's not difficult.. The difficult thing is having the vision and direction to put it all together.. To go from a good, but ordinary photo and make it into what was the final product. The thing that stands him apart from the rest of us is being able to put it all together coherently and come up with a great result at the end.

    Creating something like that is more than just a sum of its parts.. It's having the foresight to know what works, and to move in a consistant direction towards the goal..

    It's no less important than getting shutter speed, apeture and composition right.

    At the end of the day, and ESPECIALLY in fashion and glamour, you're creating an end image. A look, a feel, a concept..

    How much is done is photoshop is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the client and the audience. It's the image that counts.
     
  17. xylem

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    I think it says a lot actually. I can make full court basketball shots but i didn't feel like it so i used some footage of me shooting a ball, a ball traveling through the air and a ball going through the net. Combined and edited it makes it look like I'm scoring from the other end of the court. How does my video editing skills have anything to do with my basketball skills?

    Maybe it just says more about your motivations and what you enjoy more than skills. Whilst a lot would find the challenge of pulling it off in one shot, the post processing for desired effect, you obviously thought you'd get a better result, or were more motivated to do most of it digitally.
     
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  18. MatterHorn

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    Thanks for sharing the 'making of' video - fantastic stuff :D
     
  19. Demonic2005

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    Fantastic stuff, damm right Photoshop is part of the creativity

    I admit looking at the image you can see the extent of the PP, Albeit the calculator got me I seriously though that was the entire prop apart from the receipt

    But yeah i'd suspect the reason you didn't get picked is it does look off a professional commercial grade far beyond the realms of anything amateur
     
  20. [/\V3NG3R]

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    Holy Crap...

    You are a Photoshop legend.

    The majority of the things in that scene are fabricated using only Photoshop and Google images, and they look blisteringly realistic.
     

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