Discussion in 'PC Audio' started by ajkun, Jan 20, 2012.
External sound card for sure.
Do you mean discrete PCIE or external USB? only reason I make the distinction is that if your power's a bit grubby, an internal PCIE card will be power filtered by the PSU, whereas most of the bricks I've had with external DAC/Amp setups have been junk.
But yeah, I heard one of the new "premium" on board ones recently and it was ok I guess. The Xonar STX I have is still noticeably better though, and they're pretty cheap second hand now. This is my second one after I stupidly sold the first one.
Okay guys thx, good to know.
A set of random Teac bookshelf speakers on the PC desk, a 25 year old Pioneer VSX-D603s. It sounds decent.
Headset is a HyperX. Good budget gaming headset.
Anything that isn’t on board. Add on sound cards or external dac/amp units.
I don't know, what about something like the top Gigabyte G1 boards, the audio is completely separate from the rest of the MB . Even different PCB layers and you can replace/change out op-amps, 115dB to 124dB SNR and rear audio amp to help drive 600Ω loads. They even use Nichicon gold caps etc... That doesn't sound too shabby to me from on MB performance and would most likely do for a great many of us that enjoy sound.
The circuit isn’t separate.
Gigabyte G1 boards and many of their other boards do have one good feature though. They have one or two "USB DAC-UP" port(s) for using external DACs if you are worried about noise on USB.
I'm not sure if other companies have a similar design.
What do you guys mean by noise?
Static and vibrations etc?
Anything that's not meant to be there. Generally static, humming, any interference at all that isn't the signal that you're meant to be hearing.
Electrical noise mostly, as you get more sensitive DAC's and Amp's, the noise begins to be picked up more.
Ground loops, dirty house voltage, an old PSU, internal vs external DAC, a dodgey USB cable with poor terminations, dodgey RCA cables.
I swear i was picking up the noise of the spinning rust drive when the music was silent.
If I was building an Audio rig PC, only SSD's and no GPU at all, no GPU fan noise and i'd go no CPU fans, so a NUC is perfect for transport duties.
I can't say I hear much noise on my system.
I mean if you look at the audio upgrade from a $150 mobo to $480/530 mobo there's something like 3 levels of upgrades...surely they must sound decent
I could faintly hear my electric fence unit through my old Antec Truepower, and it was obvious through the brick on my ASUS Xonar STU. Since I've gone back to internal and gone to the Enermax Platimax it's as quiet as I've heard.
Good PSU and internal is the best defense against dirty power, wireless interference is another one, but the shield on the STX seems to keep that out well.
$330 is a whole lot of sound card though.
Got a Khadas Toneboard & JDS Labs Atom, pretty amazing duo for ~$250.
No moving parts and decent power delivery is the best.
If people want an all rounder PC though including gaming AND audio "Fan Stop" is a must.
For those that don't know (hopefully none) Fan Stop means that at low usage basically anything below gaming or equivalent computation the GPU fan doesn't turn. A lot of these GPUs have a fan stop light which lets you know if you can only see the top side of the GPU and not the side.
Great compromise if you use the same machine for gaming and listening to decent audio.
Lossless WAV > RME-ADI PRO > KG GG > SR-009
I have a FiiO E10k on one of my PCs, just powering whatever cans I have close (HD6XX usually) - but I'm starting to lose some hearing in my right ear, which isn't much fun. I've decided in that case that I am gonna run some speakers on my primary PC, using the N22 Desktop Amp, but I'm really unsure about feeding it. Is the Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD any better than onboard on a Maximus XI Hero these days?
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Lossless WAV > RME-ADI PRO > JR KGSSHV > SR-507
How much are the rmepro’s going for nowadays?
prob 2k-2.2k, aud has gone to hell, there's no real secondhand on them...mine was ex-demo buy-in from AUS.
SOUNDSEASY stocks them and Benchmark, RME DAC is $1700aud, RME FS is $1900approx, RME PRO is $2200approx.
They don't sound that musical, like "Damped", crystal clear but no real feeling for the performance.
I'd buy a Benchmark1 for around $600, no HP amp on it though.
Have to use it for STAX coz XLR IN, I nearly bought a Big Dac but offer ended too soon.