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When is consumer 10GbE going to happen?

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by Smokin Whale, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. Aetherone

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    Thats really all I had to say.

    How badly does a sheet of paper attenuate it?
     
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    Air attenuates it.

    *runs in 60GHz band, oxygen absorbs 60GHz.
     
  3. Hive

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    10 meters range realistically, LoS.
     
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    Well it isn't far of infrared.
     
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    The new ASRock boards with the Aquantia NBASE-T NICs are shipping.

    These support 2.5G and 5G but not the 10GBASE-T standard (they went with the cheaper part - there's the AQC107 which will do 10GBASE-T as well).

    I recall when desktop boards started shipping with 1GbE in 2003. Switching was expensive and didn't come down for a few more years.
     
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    Question on the new standards for 2.5gbe and 5gbe ethernet. Will they be intercompatible with 10gbe gear? Or will they just run at 1gbe?
     
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    The NBASE-T 2.5GbE and 5GbE are their own standards. Some NBASE-T NICs will also support 10GBASE-T, others will not. So in the case of the AQC108 which doesn't support 10GBASE-T, only 2.5 and 5, it'll fall back to 1GbE when plugged into a 10GBASE-T only port.
     
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    Makes sense. A little annoying though.

    Relevent XKCD.
     
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    in my books, 2.5/5Gb ethernet were a solution waiting for a problem, that in my book doesn't exist.

    10Gb ethernet is for the most part cheap enough that it is almost consumer level pricing..... almost.
     
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    Depends how much manageability is worth to the buyer. How many home users (even OCAU ones) are going to be running multiple VLANs and QoS etc. very few.

    I'd struggle to call that netgear manageable though, specs says it needs a windows PC to run the app. no thanks, I'd pass a web UI, but SSH command line is king here.
     
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    Well yeah, but if your after those features your looking at the dell 8024/8132/8164/N40xx series.
     
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    That's pretty decent pricing to run a dumb 10GbE backbone around the house.
     
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    Damn, thats exactly the sort of thing I've been hanging out for. Assuming it doesn't cook itself to death (only 18w PSU?) and can actually handle a good slab of that 10G, seems like a perfect drop'n'forget SOHO switch.

    They seemed like a good idea to me - if they were priced right. Since they're not, then they're not! :thumbdn:
     
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    If there weren't enough customers asking for something faster than 1 Gig that didn't require re-running cable they wouldn't have made it. Plus wifi.

    ...That said I'm personally not that excited about it either.
     
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    how many home users can actually fully utilise a 1Gbps link now, or even close to it? let alone have any idea of what ssh is.

    there's no consumer grade demand for 10Gbe, period. anyone asking for it is a prosumer well into the SOHO technology space. thread should be renamed "I wish business grade networking gear was cheaper", or "why aren't helicopters cheap enough for everyone to be able to afford one to use instead of a car".
     
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    Well aviation will always be far more expencive then travelling on the ground whereas 10GbE connections will eventually be a standard.. eventually..
     
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    Personally i think it was dreamed up by marketing/sales folk as a way to sell upgradeable networks. it failed miserably.
     

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