why are there no slim atx cases?

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  1. spotted

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    Looking around for a slim case, the only information I found was on reddit.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/75vnnz/good_slim_atx_cases/do9h6vm

    There is 1 matx case that takes a normal atx psu is Bitfenix Pandora is 160mm. Which btw is discontinued.

    Given that normal ATX have no 5.25 bays anymore, why are they still the same 21cm wide?
    Given 16cm can house ATX PSU, why are 14cm cases like the Core G3 using SFX PSU?

    Is there a reason nobody makes thin ATX, w/o the need for pcie header leads, etc?
    I see fat and short ones, but I don't see the point of 21cm width when we're putting nothing wider than the PSU there.
     
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    The manufacturers figure people who want thin are going ITX?

    Also cooler height? Even a humble Hyper212-X is ~160mm, add the mobo / clearance and you're not a lot far off 210mm.
     
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    Itx are still uncommon right?

    Are coolers that common now? Only if you o/c right?
    with 21cm apart from losing your old 5.25 bays, you don't seem to gain anything from a new case. Same usb2/3 ports, audio. More glass.
     
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    What motherboard specifically are you wanting to work with?
    Generally, if you're not going to use the motherboard's form factor for what it's designed for, there's no point getting that particular size.
     
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    I have a matx MB. My case is showing start of rusting on the grilles.
    If I'm going to get a new case and lose my 5.25, I expect it to be narrower not wider! (current case is 20cm)
    Also I get the same usb3 ports at the front as my 10 year old case. I just don't know what the point is.
     
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    Never looked into itx, assumed it was for those htpc format with no expansion. I want 4 ram slots anyway. I guess I expect if I buy sth at least I get sth new. You can't even seem to get usb3.1v2 ports or usb c ports on cases, or 4x usb3 ports. Nothing much seems changed but moving the PSU to bottom.
     
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    Cooler height, GPU width (esp. any with the cables at the side of the frame instead of the rear, which is most of them). Silverstone do a few cases of slimline mATX size, like a larger HTPC case.

    ML03, ML04 from Silverstone are all mATX slim cases which support full ATX PSUs, is that the kind of thing you're after? Pictures below "borrowed" from Silverstone's website.

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    ML03

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    ML04

    These will take SFF expansion cards, which limits you to an RX 560 or GTX 1050Ti.

    Lack of USB ports in slim cases is by default, as you said I think they're mostly designed for HTPC/1080p gaming machines for lounges. You'd have a wireless dongle /receiver for your keyboard/mouse and one for a controller, that's about it.
     
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    Itx is everywhere
     
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    Yes things shaped like this, but I'd put it vertically under the desk. I'd run USB headers out the back, so I guess if I can find ones that fit...
     
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    Thanks, that looks good!
     
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    This mATX case is only 190mm wide, so this is an improvement over you current 200mm wide case.

    Decent spces for the price too (IMO).
     
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    Do these have proper/removable dust filters on all usual intake areas?
     
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    yes, removable fan filters on GD10... i don't think ML03 has...

    GD10 is a good case, not slim though, like a regular hifi amp. 2 usb3.0 ports at front, audio jack, dvd drive slot....had to squeeze the cabling, EVGA GTX 1070 SC Gaming ASX3.0, 2 x SSD, HDD and DVD drive in tight. not vertical, either.

    does lian li not have some slim, vertical mATX?
     
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    The MLs don't. The GDs do.
     
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    Magnetic DEMCI filters would work though.
     
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    a narrow case limits your GPU selection to pretty much low power GPUs as you can't fit the power cable.

    If you don't need more than 32GB of RAM on a consumer board, go ITX. That opens up a whole load of narrow upright cases (less than 10cm) with no limitation on graphics cards for the most part.
     
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    OP already has an mATX setup, they're just looking for a new case.
     

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