Why do all games look like dreams?

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by Luke212, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. Luke212

    Luke212 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Messages:
    9,449
    Location:
    Sydney
    man i really hate this bloom effect that developers insist on having in games. it makes everything look like a dream sequence. its nothing like reality.

    what do u guys rekon?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2010
  2. anthony256

    anthony256 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2001
    Messages:
    10,781
    Location:
    Adelaide
    Because it's an easy effect to have on consoles, make it all look flashy and "lit well" when it's actually really unrealistic.

    Kinda like bloom/camera flare in movies - it adds nothing, yet they think it's stylish. Sometimes it's effective... but not in EVERY SINGLE SCENE (I'm looking at you Michael Bay).
     
  3. hazard002

    hazard002 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    509
    Location:
    The Burn
    If done right, it can look great.

    Spyro is a bad example, because it's made to look like fantasy, and like a cartoon, not real.

    A good example would be the newer of the Need for Speed series, bloom works great and is realistic looking, only showing when you come out of a dark place (ie, tunnels), or under a bunch of trees.

    EDIT - Most games have an option to turn it off as well if you don't like it, but I think it adds to a game. But thats just my opinion.
     
  4. MdMa

    MdMa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    357
    Location:
    Melb
    Each to their own.. I don't mind it in certain instances/games.

    BTW, great sig Luke212.
     
  5. mrpiccolod

    mrpiccolod Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,014
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Yea I'm not a fan of bloom for the most part either, can live with it tho.

    As a side run oblivion with HDR instead of bloom, its so much better :thumbup:
     
  6. peterz

    peterz Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2005
    Messages:
    382
    Location:
    NSW
    I turn it off in all my games when I can... BC2, COD:BO, etc.. Looks much better / runs much better without it!
     
  7. RhysG

    RhysG Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2005
    Messages:
    1,010
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Don't act like you weren't impressed the first time you fired up Half-Life 2: Lost Coast!
     
  8. mAJORD

    mAJORD Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2002
    Messages:
    9,405
    Location:
    Griffin , Brisbane
    Bloom effects like in screenshot # 2 annoy the shit out of me, so no i'm not a fan of the way it's implemented in a LOT of games.

    Everything in moderation
     
  9. ^catalyst

    ^catalyst Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2001
    Messages:
    11,821
    Location:
    melbourne
    Bloom can add a whole lot of win; but it is rarely used to optimum effect.

    This, is one of video games great shames.

    One could say that, video gaming in its current sense is "All dressed up and no-where to go". As we have all this computational power that allows us to generate such wonderful visuals and the such but it is all too oft used in an amateur way.

    Hopefully, someone will come along in the not too distant future and revolutionise it. I'm sure it will happen with the increase in game creation talent from the youngins of today.
     
  10. Vaper

    Vaper Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2007
    Messages:
    58
    its a dirty trick
     
  11. NNNG

    NNNG Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,720
    Location:
    Melbourne
    I tend to find it prominent in games released around 2005 - 2007. Just fairly early implementations of HDR. Newer games have MUCH better post-processing.
     
  12. rattus73

    rattus73 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2003
    Messages:
    51
    Location:
    perth
    Just a question what where the three games in the original post?
     
  13. Toliandar

    Toliandar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2010
    Messages:
    216
    Bloom and motion blur have both been overused in order to hide the dated graphics of consoles.

    I say overused because they each have a place; however it is a cheap trick to hide detail/make things look pretty at the expense of a more true to life interpretation.
     
  14. Brick

    Brick Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2010
    Messages:
    467
    Motion blur annoys me more than bloom. Don't have any problem with it racing games, but for example, Crysis using motion blur when changing weapon = fail.
     
  15. C.Michael

    C.Michael Iron Photographer

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2010
    Messages:
    920
    Location:
    Adelaide
    I think your main problem is your not a Khajit on Oblivion...
     
  16. ThunderbirdMoz

    ThunderbirdMoz Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2010
    Messages:
    1,287
    Location:
    Queensaldn
    yea I dont like it either. Its like Tinkerbell flew overhead and sprinkled pixie dust over everything.

    Edit: I also don't like the bokeh effect in games. I don't mind it in photography and I know thats how our eyes work but in games I want to focus on what I want to focus my eyes on not what the game wants me too.
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2010
  17. irR4tiOn4L

    irR4tiOn4L Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2004
    Messages:
    3,066
    Location:
    Carlingford, Sydney
    Well I think Arma 2 is a good example of HDR and graphics done right, and looks very nice. But games like that - they are not for everyone, and neither are their 'realistic' graphics - some people just think it looks bland or boring because they are looking for something more colourful

    So i guess, to the OP - just like movies, a lot of the market wants embellishment. They want dreams
     
  18. Scaramunga

    Scaramunga Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2010
    Messages:
    29
    I personally hate bloom. BC2 looks particularly horrible with it enabled. Looks too generic. I know that no all game graphics are set out to mimic real life (and thank goodness for that!). But imagine walking around in real life with bloom (like in the second screenie), you'd wanna neck yourself.
     
  19. HWMB

    HWMB Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    234
    Yeah man I am with ya, it looks nothing like when I go back in time and get medieval on someones arse, or start a high tech war with random adversaries, and certainly nothing like that when I take a trip back to bad old days and get my vigilante on.

    Yep its nothing like reality. :rolleyes:
     
  20. MrSmoke

    MrSmoke Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2008
    Messages:
    2,368
    Location:
    NSW, Blue Mtns NizzleBiX
    they make it like dreams so when you finish the shit story you can treat it like most generic dreams you have and forget about it :upset:
     

Share This Page