why does google voice typing suggest grammatically incorrect words

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  1. spotted

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    I use voice typing a lot. I've found suggestions are pretty horrid and can't be trained.

    Eg I say 'digitals' and get these options
    • digitools
    • Digitales
    • digitalz
    • digital's
    Hopefully obviously none of them are correct, and only 1 is even a word.

    Also, with many TLAs, it always adds the ' after it. Like
    • CEO's
    • TLA's
    Almost like google doesn't speak English as a 1st language.
    And you can't train these out by selecting the correct option.

    Is this happening to everyone? I've had this for years. Is there a fix?
     
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    assuming it learns from text predictions in which case too many idiots training it
     
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    Quick, use "Digitals" in a sentence. Other than some very stupid brand names I can't think of a single grammatical use. Yes, technically you can use "digital" as a noun, but it's super, super hard to think of a reason why you'd ever pluralise that noun.
     
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    Anything that has an analog version.

    Digital files from cameras
    Watches
    Music turntables
    Motors

    In any case a noun as a plural surely is more likely than any of those other examples thrown up as a suggestion?
     
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    Are you proposing some monstrosity along the lines of "send me a copy of those digital[ file]s"? Because no, I would never say that.

    I can just about imagine it used as slang, maybe... "Are we shooting digital or film today?" "Film, but throw the digitals in the truck just in case"

    Honestly "digital" as a noun is pretty suspect to begin with? It's not so much a noun as it is an ellipsis of an adjective-noun combination. Now, we do that in English all the time (it's called Nominalisation, e.g. "the meek shall inherit the earth", "only the good die young" and so on) but usually in such a way as to refer to only one noun (in the previous examples, "people"). "The digital" doesn't work that way...the real noun is elided and the term isn't used frequently enough for any particular noun to be inferred without context.

    Which is to say that I suspect Google trained their speech-to-text system on a dataset which included few or no instances of the word "digitals".
     
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    I'm not proposing anything. That's how the word is used, by people of all demographics.

    "Can I get the digitals with the prints?"
    "I wanted to buy an analog watch, but all they sold were digitals"
    "All motors in Dyson vacuums are digitals"
     
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    nah, you would say
     

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