Why Linux Sucks + Why Linux Does Not Suck

Don't think putting these in the Consolidated Video thread would really hit the target.

http://lunduke.com/?p=2953





Really hits home on a lot of front, slight disagreements here and there, but the 'packaging sucks' part was spot on!

Please don't make this a whine thread, thanks

 

A web page with tiles, fuck I laughed my arse off at that

 

cleary edit: don't make it a whine thread.

 

cleary edit: don't feed the troll

 

IKT, you've already anticipated the type of response this will generate.
Just letting you know, the thread will be locked if it continues in this direction.

 

Agree that Linux Desktop sucks and I don't like Unity neither but that is my opinion there are plenty of others who would see it diferently. Im yet to finish watching the video but personally I think Linux is way way way better now then it was in 1995 when I first started installing it in ISP and businesses.

Look at how widely excepted it is now compared to back then.

 

The best thing about Linux is that it's open source.

The worst thing about Linux is that it's open source.

 

One of the biggest things I've always hated about linux is that some things don't work "out of the box" (which, granted, neither does windows), but installing things isn't a straight forward 'download, double click and Bob's your uncle' kinda thing. And the other thing I don't like about it is application names. Instead of straight forward names like in windows, many apps have odd, counter intuitive names.

My litmus test for ease of use is if I can give it to my wife and she can use it. She has trouble between android 2.3 on her galaxy s2 and android 4 on the tablet!

All that said, I do have limited experience using linux, but I've tried out nearly every version of ubuntu since 5, and a couple of redhat, back in the day. It has come a loooong way since then, and I think it will soon be on a level where average Joe Citizen will be able to sit down and use it easily enough. I'm not looking for a different brand of windows, but the linux community is not going to get the market share they want and deserve if they continue to make it less than simple for basic operation.

I quite like the last couple of versions of ubuntu I've tried out, has me impressed. It's just unfortunate I need windows far too much.

 

A tip for the long essay-writing folks,
If you haven't watched the videos, please do that before you post.

This will help to keep the thread on topic, and I can't stress how quickly I will close this thread if it turns to rubbish.

 

The loose coupling of libraries means that this is simply very difficult. For the advantages that loose coupled libraries provides, release a tarball and let the distros package it (which is their job - to package and distribute your software - second video )

 

To be fair the "loose coupling" of libraries is (or, can be) a problem on all operating systems ("DLL Hell" on Windows). A lot of libraries can be statically linked (i.e. "built-in" to the finished executable), however there are different potential issues associated with that solution (licensing and distribution issues, executable size, code re-usability between different apps come to mind). As with many things in life the final decision is a pragmatic one rather than necessarily the "best" solution or most elegant design (whatever "best" and "elegant" may mean...)

Cheers

 

Did anyone else find it amusing they started asking people to leave the room while they were on the topic of Unity.

 

I agree to everything that was presented. Except for the part where he was talking about gaming and AAA titles. And how you should just use Wine or Virturalbox.

I have not given the Virturalbox method a go yet but I don't think he hasn't tried doing this himself with Wine. I have never been successful in getting Steam and Source games to run properly on Linux yet. Possibly cause I only tried Ubuntu which i now have ditched. (gone back to Debian). And Starcraft II didn't get to install.

Given that was over 18 months ago now. Maybe things have changed.

 

Pretty simple really. Xorg and effort duplication. It's the same reason why programmers need product and project managers to get work done.

Without a focus on direction and minimization of duplication, developers spend an accountable amount of time optimizing and arguing over irrelevancies.

 

I tried playing a simple .mp3 in a clean Ubuntu install. No dice. Need to download a plugin. Ergh.

 

What's wrong with that? Licencing restrictions affect everybody. I can't play my iTunes purchases on Windows without installing third party software.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but when I installed Ubuntu, I recall a specific checkbox asking if I wanted to install the Fluendo codec pack (mp3 playback), does this not work?

 

Wrong thread.

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=994410

 

It is the right thread if it is written in the context of not being able to play a simple mp3 in linux, and thus is a reason why linux sucks.

EDIT: Kriiv, install Linux Mint. It has codecs out of the box.