[WIN10] Windows 10 Mega thread

Discussion in 'Windows Operating Systems' started by MR CHILLED, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. GoneFishin22

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  2. coderx

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    build 9926 won't go to 10041

    Anyone else having the issue where windows update says

    "your device is up to date" - I am on the 'fast' track update, I know build 10041 is out and apparently is delivered via windows update, but my system says there is no update and won't install anything. (no errors - it just says there is no update).
     
  3. scottath

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    Rebooted?
    Mine just came in the updates. Just rebooted and logged in - no issues yet.
     
  4. coderx

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    Yea, rebooted a couple times, I'll try again though. Keen to see the new build in action. (so far I really like 10).
     
  5. scottath

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    Update broke RSAT - sigh.
    Back to the W8.1 VM for that stuff....
     
  6. NSanity

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    it is.

    You have the "give it to me normal" or "give it to me normal+p2p"

    The second option is probably going to be the fastest.
     
  7. Smokin Whale

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    Wow, didn't see that one coming. Looks like they really want everyone on Windows 10. Awesome I guess :thumbup: Something tells me that this might be the nail in the coffin for desktop linux though. It's hard to compete at the same price level ($0).

    Also fantastic. I can see this being excellent for organisations households and small business.
     
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  8. NSanity

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    You're absolutely kidding right.

    Microsoft already has a controlled, centralised update service for Organisations.
     
  9. Smokin Whale

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    Sorry, I know about WSUS, but I was was more referring to small businesses. Not everyone has a Windows server handy.
     
  10. Dark Passenger

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    me and my other tech just spent 2 days getting our WSUS running really really well oh well
     
  11. millsy

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    Yeah see my second post on it :)

    I'll be opt out unless I Have a number of windows machines. Not worth the risk.
     
  12. Smokin Whale

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    Risk of what exactly?
     
  13. millsy

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    You're assuming that along the way no one finds a way to inject malicious code into the updates cached locally and infect other machines.

    Most likely will never happen, but I don't see a need to expose myself to the risk when windows update will work fine without it.

    As I said originally, local network I think is a great idea though :)
     
  14. GoneFishin22

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    LOL........they have changed the icons "again".....

    On another note Task Manager is getting pretty screwed up with the latest preview build 10041:


    Click to view full size!
     
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    Just a thought bubble:
    Microsoft are clearly moving to the subscription /cloud model for Office.

    Were I a betting man, I'd speculate that this "free Win10 upgrade" caper isn't being done to hoover up all the "perpetual licences" of Win8 and Win7, and set the stage for a 'free for the first year' subscription Windows10.
    You can sure bet that upgrading a Win7/8 license to Windows10 invalidates it, with no way back.

    A similar move by Adobe has sure done well for them, and this would give logic to the move to allow upgrades to Win10 from pirated windows copies.

    The P2P updates might even fit in with this, if there is a licence check back-channeled through it (even a non-real-time version of that would work). it might be simple enough for pirates down the track to create a hacked version that blocks MS validation servers, but it's impossible to block all P2P addresses, by their very nature.

    Moving to a subscription model would also tend to pull customers subtly into the MS spiderweb of cloud services. Outside cloud services I can see the day fast approaching when an MS live account is no longer optional but mandatory. That gives MS an email-channel / spruiking vector for cloud services, and it will become increasingly difficult to dis-inveigle the cloud from Windows functionality.

    Sure, some of this might be tinfoil hat stuff, but I'm a cynical bastard, and this seems like a really clear monetising strategy:- and nothing I've speculated here disagrees with what I'm seeing under Satya Nadella's "New Deal".

    Callan
     
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    You aren't the only one thinking this way.

    In other news pirated windows that's updated to 10 does not update it to a valid license - it retains it's non-genuine status (all of China just got un-excited about 10, lol).
     
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    I think microsoft would have thought of this... surely updates will be validated with checksums and the like. I'd be surprised if it became a problem.
     
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    COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT;

    Don't click the 'Microsoft Corporation' icon in the apps list in the start menu. It opens a calculator/converter that won't close and you have to hard reset.
     
  19. millsy

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    It wouldn't be unprecedented, md5 has been shown to have collisions.

    Not to mention that time they had to revoke their own certificates.
    https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/2718704

    I'm not saying they haven't thought of it, but humans aren't infallible.
     
  20. M United

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    What's the verdict on this worth switching from arguably the best windows every created 7? I would stick on Win 7 forever but you know drivers etc have to upgrade eventually.
     

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