I tell you something, in Windows 7 at least, the audio is that fucking terrible that I can't even force 5.1 upmix on my X-Fi Titanium in the game "Torchlight"... it just doesn't work at all... not even via DTS Connect (encodes everything to 5.1). It simply REFUSES to use anything but 2 channels - front right and front left (in Torchlight game). That's how bad Win 7 audio is - it won't even let me force an upmix - be it CMSS-3D, Dolby Live, DTS Connect or other, in Torchlight. However, the upmix for Torchlight works fantastic in XP x64. Really really good. And that's what I run these days and will stick to - I get Server 2003 code base + XP compatibility + large memory and swap access + full hardware audio with perfect umpixing and general acceleration, not to mention the superior performance (because of Server 2003 code base). So inlight of this, I want to reaffirm what I said before... Windows 8 - WILL NOT GET! No fucking way, Microsoft. Even IF hardware audio returned in the way of DirectSound, which is laughable considering how they claimed it was no good, I will not take the risk AGAIN of being burnt. I think it's good that hardware audio might be making a come back, but it's too little too late. After two failed releases (I don't care what the sales book says), I just am not interested. Honestly... the sheer amount of time I put into Win 7 audio issues alone since 2009 and Vista before that... I should probably charge Microsoft for my time. Get stuffed, Microsoft.