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Discussion in 'MMOs' started by NSanity, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. iinsom

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    I think there will be an item (much like the tomes atm) where you can reroll for a cost.

    http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/august/Panel023.jpg

    http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/august/Panel024.jpg

    These are a few of the talent trees there, it looks like you get talent points, which i assume is the currency that you "unlock" throughout the xpac. There might be a cost involved (like changing talents, maybe done at your class hall) to change over, and not an item cost.
     
  2. peg

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    Seems like a fast turn around. Blizzard taking a note out of EA's book.
     
  3. afcca

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    I love the idea behind the Demonhunters, wanted to play one for years but... I don't actually like the look of them.. Dunno why, just don't.

    I'll definitely roll one but I won't be jumping up and down to create one from launch to make my new main, which I've done both times previously.


    Artifacts however do have me excited, particularly finding out which ones they're still to announce. There's a lot of things from Lore they could pick, but not that many when comparing them to things such as Ashrbringer or Doomhammer. Very interested in what they do with this.

    Many people on MMOC seem to be thinking they're going to include current in-game legendaries as artifacts but I'm doubting it. At least for everything other than Warglaives.
     
  4. japes

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    Probably going to be garbage.

    Will probably sub anyway for the fucking companion pets.
     
  5. Radley

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    Totally agree, it's going to be fucking terrible. And I'll also probably resub...
     
  6. Shawry

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    Art department is doing a great job on the expansion by the looks of it :thumbup:
     
  7. fnp

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    Art (and music) department always do a good job. It's whoever does game mechanics and the social side and game immersion that hasn't been as good for a bit IMO.
     
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    NSanity

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    Raid Encounter too.
     
  9. Ck21

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    +1

    personally i believe all the dev's (except art/cinematics) are sick of WoW and want to move onto something new, but corporate wont let them.

    They keep doing shit that piss's of a fair proportion of the playerbase as evidenced by sub numbers spiraling down to new lows.

    Seriously who do think they are fooling when they say believe their core market are now aged between 28-34 who having less and less time to play games due to life circumstances?

    I personally know of over 20 people where i live, who use to play WoW, but now dont cause of this expansion and the last 2 MoP/Cata due to class changes, content segregation (LFR/flex/normal/heroic) and now; flying in WOD.

    People i know stopped playing there paladins cause of the change to holy power, stopped playing healing priests due to chakra shit, and shadow due to shadow orbs (essentially reskinned holy power), elemental shamans due to massive dps nerf and spreading out there damage, feral druid (cats) due to moving a good chunk of their dps into DoT's and even the spilt of feral into 2 spec's... the list goes on and on.

    And after watching their gamescon revel and talk about how they are going to change survival hunters into melee, BM into weak hunter/strong pet and MM into strong hunter/no pet... well my hunter was my favourite alt to play, and its been survival spec since TBC, i always hated how BM relied heavily on the pet, and MM never felt right with me, if they really turn survival into melee, will never play my hunter alt ever again. just like i stopped playing my ret pally and holy/disc priest.

    Change for the sake of change isnt the best thing for the game or players. And there constant lets take the core gameplay of a class and change it this expansion cause "insert excuse here" is whats wrong with WoW today in my opinion.

    I quit about 6weeks into the WOD expansion, always been on prepaid cards rather then sub. Also not for the first time, i quit in cata, skipped 90% of it, quit again in Mop (skipped 90% of it) and i came back when they introduced the wow tokens, buying game time with gold, because flying was suppose to be coming soon. Ive currently got 28days left, wont be buying another token with gold if i cant fly.

    At the rate its going, flying will come to WOD just before the new expansion comes, and to make it worse, its locked behind a rep grind thats suppose to take 6-8weeks of daily's... and they arnt having flying in legion untill the end, so i proably wont play legion either.
     
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  10. Shawry

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    Best desicion ever. Flying is just immersion breaking. Sure it should have been introduced in 6.2, but if you are leaving because of no flying then good, get the fuck out.
    Best change they've announced so far for class changes. Its a tough ask for current Hunter players for them to give it a chance, but class specs NEED variation. Currently Hunter is hunter is hunter. Boring as hell.

    So much better than locked behind a tiny gold sink. If you cant tell I hate flying. People are just lazy and want everything to be quicker and easier. And honestly, if you didnt already have the required achievements (or be very close to it) by the time it was announced then you werent playing the game.

    Personally I think that if WoD had launched with the patch 6.1 changes, it'd have been awesome.
    I also think that if I could sit face to face and discuss people's "issues" with the game currently I could easily convince them they are being whinging idiots and they are just being swayed by "popular" opinion and not using their own brains. I can dream....right?
     
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  11. sjbudgets

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    I have already Preordered it at Eb :)
     
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    Mixed feelings re the artifact and having it stick around the entire xpac. Sure its customisable but im fairly positive it will have a must have spec to be competitive.

    On topic of Leg ring, as an spriest it shits me to flappin tears..aside from the raw stats, i hate it.
     
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    NSanity

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    You actually have no idea - and given that you're not happy with the state of the game, you're not the market. To me it sounds like you have a short attention span and no desire to do group content - ergo why the hell are you playing an MMO in the first place.

    I know people who had flying "ready" on the day of 6.2 launch. Its actually revered with the 3 tanaan reps which can be done in 11 days of 30-40 minute dailies. Treasure and exploration components can be done in an afternoon.

    Sure they are dragging their heals with 6.2.1 - but all it is going to do is enable me to do archeology that i'm not going to do anyway.

    SV going *back* to melee is a good thing. SV is fucked right now, and has been all xpac - relying on a bug to do any meaningful damage which was fixed in 6.2 (SS ticks on MS/AS cast). It brings identity back to SV - which had none since probably BC at this point.

    Spriests issues are purely surrounding no real way to pre-purchase orbs.

    Ret is too random, as is Fury. Arms is broken. WW is boring.

    Shamans need totems *fixing* - all specs.

    The legendary ring being shared activation is fucking stupid. You either dick over people on 3/5 minute c/d's or people on 2 min c/d's. on top of that Ranged should never ever activate it ever.
     
  14. BoutS

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    Yea besides the treasure stuff, i been flying ready for quite some time.

    I have been entering encounters with orbs saved so i can start off the fight on a better level lol, i double sigh when we wipe and i gotta start from nothing.

    Oh well, joys of the spriest.

    Yep that unified activation is an absolute disgrace of mechanics, i can understand the concept behind it but MEH (caps for emphasis)..Top it off if you going to make it unified, let the tank decide when its needed imo. Although i can see how this causes issues.

    SO many weeks without a tier drop for me, some 24k epgp waiting..got a norm piece from #puglife and saved myself for raids with guild and gotten attrocious drops. So i was rocking 685 non wf t17 kit for ages and finally got 2 other bits last week..

    Anyway HFC aint bad, not horrible and some of the fights are fun.
     
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  15. Grom Hellscream

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    I'm amassing prof mats for my inc reroll to DH. Ret plays clunky as fuck since Holy Power so I'm not inclined to go back to that, and WW is underpowered and boring as fuck. My 650 DK wrecks mobs out in the world much better than my 695 WW monk. I'm REALLY upset with the way WW ended up, with all its damage locked behind a shit stacking mastery ability (TeB) and gimmicky multitarget (SEF).
     
  16. Ck21

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    fyi, i dont have a short attention span, and i love group content, its just abit hard to do said group content when no-body wants to play anymore, and people who do play, cbf leaving their garrisons or citys.

    During TBC, i was always either raiding (both current content and old classic content), and when i was saved to everything on my main waiting on resets, i jumped onto one of my alts and did the same.

    Ive been doing that since TBC, every expansion till cata, during cata i decided to switch from feral druid main to resto/ele shaman, fuk me did that go all wrong, i couldnt heal a normal dungeon or heroic, cause of the clossal difficulty increase, oom'ing on every pull, and it wasnt the case of didnt know my class and spec, i was a pretty decent resto shaman in wrath, same with holy priest, i was reguarly in the top3 heals in raids, cata aboslutely ruined healing for me. So i went back to tank and dps.

    But when people stop doing group content, dont have the desire to go back and hit old content for fun, collecting legendarys or transmorg gear, besides raiding and the same old limited pvp, for a dominate PVE player like myself, only thing you can do is stop playing and go play something else.

    MoP brought alot of people back into PVE content, esp with ALTs, but it only took about 2months before people stopped wanting to do old content cause they had already collected all the transmorg gear/mounts/achievements they wanted. so yet again, back to the same cycle. In MoP i tried really hard to enjoy PVP, but i just couldnt get into it, didnt matter what class or spec.

    I had every class at max level in TBC and Wrath, I maxed out all in cata besides pally/priest and same again in MOP. I bought the lvl90 character upgrades for my pally/priest in WOD, and now how all classes at 100. I have just over 500days played across all my characters, with my highest on a single toon being 199days.

    I want to be postive and do dungeons/heroics/raids, but finding others to group with to do the same is nigh-impossible in todays game, and i dont see Legion changing that tbh. And everybody i come across who has quit or quit and come back says the same things, class changes ruin everything for them, cata difficulty even in basic heroics was a slap in the face to everyone but elitists, and those who stuck it out till WoD, flying is just the straw that broke the camels back, and i understand where they're coming from.
     
  17. Radley

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    No flying is an absolute disgrace and I don't blame them for losing people for it. If you want to walk or use flight paths, go for it. I like to explore from above and collect flying mounts, as to many others. Ground mounts get really fucking boring really fast, especially when you've done the content multiple times.
     
  18. BoutS

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    Personally i had no issue with no flying in wod, shit wasnt that hard to get to.. sure the treasures are a punish but meh, thats like what.. 1% of anything.

    Im happy the compromised, but all the whines about the no flying was just hogwash imo, justified hogwash as the effect was minimal but flying had been around for quite a while and the turnaround took everyone by surprise.

    I like flying mounts just as much as the next person, but it does take away some of ground feel imo.
     
  19. Sub_Atomic

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    Re-subbed using gold to check it all out. Ugh... damn you WoW....
     
  20. BoutS

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    Hey no fucks given approach and fun is easily had.
     

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