Often the lower tiers can be overlooked and you can work your magic. I find the cruiser class is harder to abuse view range and often are the numbties torping their own team, Tenryu and Kuma class because they feel they have range. My response to a nub who torp dumps is usually a couple in reply with the chat request of "Do you like team torps?", sometimes they get it, sometimes they get hit. I'm usually well clear by then. Many don't get the herding and coralling of enemy with blind torps, they work well sometimes to deny an area or get free hits at chokes.