Xbox 2

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  1. charliebrown_au

    charliebrown_au New Member

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    Xbox 2 / Xbox 360

    Xbox 2 / Xbox 360

    Xbox Microosoft - http://www.microsoft.com/xbox/

    Xbox Site - http://www.xbox.com/en-US/


    Xbox 2 / Xbox 360 - Due :

    ( Details from http://www.xbox.com/en-us/xbox360/console.htm )

    2005 in North America, Europe, and Japan
    2006 in Asia Pacific and Latin America.


    Xbox 360 Console specs were released on MTV Paytv channel on Thursday, May 12, 2005

    ( http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/video/Xbox360/Preview/mtv.jpg )


    Xbox 360 will support HD TV, Music playbackand Movies playback
    Xbox 360 will have Xbox Live as did the Xbox 1 console

    Xbox 360 will support Xbox Live Marketplace:
    Xbox Live Marketplace is a place to download new game trailers, demos, plus new game levels,
    maps, weapons, vehicles, skins, and more. Accessible to everyone who establishes a broadband
    connection (ADSL 1/ADSL2/Cable)

    Xbox will able to Play DVD Movies , Rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive and share your latest digital pictures with friends, streams the digital media stored on your MP3 player (ipod), Digital camera, Media Center PC, or any Microsoft® Windows® XP-based PC.

    Xbox Digital Media Support : DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD,
    MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD


    Xbox 360 System Specifications

    Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU

    # 1 MB L2 cache
    # Custom ATI Graphics Processor
    # 500MHz processor
    # 10 MB of embedded DRAM
    # 500 million triangles per second
    # 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA
    # 48 billion shader operations per second
    # 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM System RAM
    # 700 MHz of DDR
    # Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
    # 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
    # Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB
    # Support for up to four wireless game controllers
    # Three USB 2.0 ports
    # Two memory unit slots
    # Built-in Ethernet port
    # Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
    # Video camera ready
    # Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
    # Stands vertically or horizontally
    # Customizable Face Plates

    Xbox 360 Game List:

    Call of Duty 2 (Activision), Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
    Quake 4, The Darkness, Need For Speed: Most Wanted ( EA Games),
    Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2006, Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo: Elements of Power, Project Gotham Racing 3, Gears of War, Madden NFL '06,Saint's Row ,Ghost Recon 3 and NBA 2006
     
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  2. vipersnews

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    I wonder if they have worked out if it will be backward compatable yet?
     
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  3. Daveo

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    Looks interesting...
     
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    It does look good , i hope they still sell it for 200 to 300 au bucks

    It would be good if xbox 1 games still worked ..

    They need to add support for usb mouse and usb keyboard nativly instead of having to use a wangy controler pad ...

    Espicaly for RTS & Tatical FPS you need keyboard & mouse

    It would be good if they added a gigabit network card to it instead of 10/100 and function to add more hdds via usb or extra ide lead
     
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    When is it being released?
     
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    As it says above...
     
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    Sounds good. I better start saving my dosh for when it comes out. lol
     
  8. skyline34

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    I think a PC would suit your needs more than an xbox lol. You have to draw a line somewhere!!
     
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  9. Fodder

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    Heh, no chance. I expect it'll launch at the same $300 USD tag as is usual.
    Part of XNA is a big cross-platform controller compatibility standard, so you may well be pleasantly surprised.
    I think you can rest assured XB2 will be alot harder to mod than XB1. It sounds like you want a repeat of the cheap-Xbox-as-HTPC bonanza, which frankly isn't going to happen.

    Anyway, here's a bit more info courtesy of J. Allard's GDC keynote:
    I'm constantly impressed with what MS are doing with Xbox Live. It's going to be quite a challenge for Sony or Nintendo to compete for the attention of online gaming fans.
     
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  10. JaS

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    Can't wait till this years E3 :D.

    I'm curious as to some of the ways that the developers are gonna use to multiple CPUs. Should make for some good physics and AI :).

    Bit disappointed about the lack of stock HDD, but if you get the add on the custom soundtrack feature will be much better now that all games support it :).

    I'm hoping the console is backwards compatible with the games and hardware though. I know it supposed to come with wireless controllers (I think), but it'll be kinda annoying giving up the ability to use your exisiting controllers and having to purchase up to an extra 3 Xbox 2/Xenon controllers, but I guess that's been happening since the dawn of the consoles.
     
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    I'm sure this isn't an Xenon as claimed in the first post, and looking at claimed cache levels it's a celeron or more like a cyrix clone, being from IBM :) Isn't the PS2 a 128bit CPU Now? The PS3 is due in MAY.
     
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    http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=8229

    Electronic Arts’ next Need for Speed game, detailing the company’s thinking on the leading franchise update for the first time.

    The series will ditch the Underground moniker, with the new game carrying the title Need for Speed: Most Wanted. The information, leaked to us last week, states that the multi-platform offering will ship across the world in late 2005.

    Most Wanted will be available for Xbox 2, Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube, PC, PSP and “Game Boy Advance or Nintendo DS.”

    A pleasant added value news snippet details a “…simultaneous ship, with the western Xbox2 platform", which indicates a late 2005 release for Xbox2
     
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    next year maybe.
     
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    Three 3ghz PowerPC cores with 2mb cache..... anyone else smelling bullsh*t?

    Good luck getting it for less than $1k AUD if those specs are true (which, somehow I don't think they are.... like the whole PS3 cell processor hype).
     
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    I reckon the price of "Xbox2" and "PS3" is going to be around the AUD $1000 mark taking into account launch prices from the current gen of consoles,the technology involved and the fact they have to try and make some money on these things....
     
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    If its going to be around $1000 why not just got and buy a pc then ?

    If a console is more then $350 then it seems cheaper and better to get a PC
     
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    You're very confused.

    Xenon is the codename for Xbox2. Xeon, which you're thinking of, is Intel's server CPU.

    Both are horribly unrelated.

    Bits, as far as CPU's go, don't mean a whole lot. The Jaguar was 128-bit, and see how it stacks up to a 32-bit Xbox. Totally, totally, different things in this day and age.

    You also don't know much about the POWER architecture if you're comparing it to a Cyrix CPU, let alone calling it a Cyrix clone. Again, totally unrelated.

    Do some research, then come back.

    Edit: May? 05? :lol:

    I assume prices will be at the usual $600AU launch price (perhaps $500?), and dropping from there, similar to the previous Xbox & PS2 pricing regimes.
     
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    isnt PowerPC a mac thing ?
     
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    They don't need to artificially inflate the processor price like AMD and Intel do to recoup R&D costs as they'll be selling the same chip for 5 years (and it'll progressively get cheaper to make) as well as making a packet off software sales. Everything we've seen so far indicates those specs are fairly accurate.
    Why do they need to try to make money? Consoles pretty much always sell at a loss on launch day, they make money back through software sales and decreased hardware costs over time (see the slim PS2). I'd be very surprised if any of the next-gen consoles launch higher than $399 USD, and I'm expecting the traditional $299 USD pricetag. If you're taking into account launch prices of current consoles, wouldn't you expect this generation to be cheaper as the exchange rate is better?
    It's an IBM thing, but Apple do buy PowerPC chips for their machines.
    Previous consoles have been as powerful (moreso in some areas, less in others) at launch as a high-end PC. The upcoming generation looks to continue that trend.
     
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