Z390chipset, i9 9900k i79700k and i5

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  1. adamsleath

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    https://videocardz.com/78256/asus-z390-rog-maximus-xi-strix-prime-and-tuf-motherboards-leaked
    as posted already this link.
    the VRM designs for these z390 boards looks slightly more juicy than the existing z370's...just looking at the caps around the socket. of course this bloke has pretty overkill breakdown of these sorts of things....:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ

    nice to know i can plop in a nice 9900k into my board though at some point in the future...if i see something appealing that really utilises 16 threads :D
    i wont be overclocking it though...it be pretty darn hot for vrms if they are under-sized/capacity components.
     
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  2. Tazor

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    Do we reckon for gaming there's much point going the 9900k over an 9700k? Most games don't take much advantage of hyperthreading so my thinking is they should be pretty close in performance to each other.
     
  3. raGneG

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    Not a 25% increase to justify the 25% increase in cost. Probably less than 5%. If you're only gaming, I don't see the point. I'm probably going to convince my head to stop listening to my heart.. or genitals.. and go 9700k. 9900k is only really worth it for certain workloads.. encoding/rendering etc.
     
  4. Tazor

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    That's my thinking too. Does the addition of hyperthreading contribute to temperatures much?
     
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    Not that I know of, it's just a logical split of a physical core for task queuing purposes from my understanding. CPU works at 100% if required to either way.
     
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    It sure does. on a quad core with HT, switching it off can reduce load temps by ~ 10 degrees.
     
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    Isn't that just because it's more efficiently queuing commands? As in, it's not that HT is responsible for increased temps, it's that the CPU is actually at 100%? Semantics I suppose.
     
  8. Tazor

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    I guess we'll see if there are dramatic temperature differences between the i7 and the i9
     
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    I would have thought they were just higher binned dies with it enabled as a setting, so I don't think that's a valid comparison.. as their lesser ability to handle thermals probably put them in the slightly lower clock and disabling of HT in the first place.. shrugs!
     
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    Guess we'll need to wait and see...
     
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    Interesting,no Apex with the 2x8pin CPU power delivery. Hoping to slap a 9900k into my Max X APEX. Might even spring for a full cover block since nothing exiting on the GPU scene atm.
     
  12. Tazor

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    Did you guys see the new Gene board? Basically an oversized ITX motherboard with 2 dimms and 1 16x pcie lane
     
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    Not really, the Gene looks more like an Apex board on diet trying to compete with Asrock Z170 MOCF which will probably get coffeecake refresh CPU support too.
     
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    YES. Binning for the ultimate 8 core HT.
    Do we believe also Intel has emptied the warehouses of x299 better than Skylakes? 7740x Kabylake 4 core is awesome ... wondering what Intel trick is left? 6+
     
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    Hugs stupidly overspecced VRM in this Z170 'laptop', 4 phase doubled scheme with 8x 40A fets. Originally for a 6700K which literally wouldn't use half that overclocked to the hilt under small FFTs. i9 already demo'd on the Z270 version of this beast (P870KM)

    https://twitter.com/premamod
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    Parts of the physical core pipeline are duplicated, so with HT on and the extra silicon active, extra power consumed/heat generated. "Threadaware" programs can detect extra logical cores and generate more threads to distribute a multi core workload (like more boxes in Cinebench)
     
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    no need for 2 x 8 pin. 1 x 8 pin can deliver more than is ever needed in any case...unless you're on ln2.

    i still prefer overkill on the vrm components and heatsinks so they run as cool as possible.......
     
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    This is a genuine question not a fanboi based one but looking at that 9900k CB score of 2008 at 5.0ghz am I missing something?

    My 2700x gets 1951 at 4.25ghz. That is just changing the power/temp states of the all core clocks.My Ram was running at 3333C14 so nothing stupid there.

    I know Intel single core is higher even at same clock speeds but I was expecting higher from the Intel in a multi core test. The 2700x is running at %85 of the clock speed of the intel and achieves a score that is 97% of the 9900k's.

    Even if that was stock the 2700x gets 1820 at 4040hz which is %90 of intels score at %80% of the clockspeed. (and that score is with ram at 3200C14)


    Is the AMD multiple core implementation more efficient than intels?

    Or what am I missing

    Thanks
     
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    The new Gene board is 2x8 pin, so perhaps the Gene is taking the place of the Apex as the OCing board since they don't need the full PCB for all the Apex features? As someone above states.
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    To be honest, I would totally be down for one of these in a Chimera MachOne with a 280mm custom loop and a block on my 1080ti FTW3 with an 9700k.
     
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    ...the return of the gene. that one is worth getting.
     
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    oh wow put me down for one of those.

    WTT: APEX X for GENE XI. :D
     
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