Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by kot0005, Jun 28, 2018.
Maybe next year.
Shareholders? Although I don't care about them.
Reminds me of the VW emissions scandal, although on a smaller scale.
$859AU preorder ... crikey
Approaching HEDT level pricing. That sweet 5GHz better be worth it
imagine what you would have said when this bad boy was king...
AMD ATHLON 64 3800+ (2.4GHZ, HYPERTRANSPORT, 64BIT, 512K CACHE SOCKET939) + RETAIL BOX *NEW* $1,225.00 - Release date June 1, 2004.
I actually had that very same processor. Still similar ones here & plenty of cool 939 machines
$849 from PLE I suddenly feel 9700K is not a bad buy since you are only paying about 30-40 dollars more for a soldered CPU with a similar boost clock comparing to 8086K.
And more cores.
What I've found managing people, is that people often deflect or miss-assign their true feelings. When someone says "I don't get paid enough for this shit". They're not saying they don't get paid enough. They're saying "This is shit", and even if you raise their wage several times, I've never heard anyone said "This is shit, but this is why they pay me the big bucks". I've heard people say "That why they pay YOU the big bucks" to someone else, but nobody ever owns it.
Same thing here. Most of us want cool tech. If the 9 series was 40% faster, or used half the power, or had a quantum compute co-processor, I'm sure people wouldn't give a flying f**k about contrived benchmarks, high prices and other shenanigans. but the thing is, the CPU market has been underwhelming for a while now. There's no competition and a rumoured shortage, which means all us enthusiasts who have been waiting for an upgrade, get disappointed by incremental upgrades, and price increases and some of us are taking it out on the company. We haven't been "fucked up the arse" as you so eloquently put it, but we have been disappointed, and what do disappointed people do? Whine.
Don't assume people whining can't afford and won't buy the new chip. I am going to buy it, and on my income and role on IT (partial claim on tax), it's petty cash. But it feels like I am buying a tool, not a toy. It's necessary, not something I find cool and exciting, when I was hoping for something exciting. I've been waiting for 10nm for 18 months now. I've been telling co-workers, "Hold off getting a new laptop for 3 months, you'll be able game for 8 hours on a laptop battery because of the low power consumption and increased performance!". Well, still waiting on that. In theory it's come out in bits with the i3-8121U and the i7-8809HQ, but the hype that has been speculated has been underwhelming at best.
People whine when they are disappointed. It might not be the thing they are disappointed about, but they will find fault in everything when they are disappointed. And let's be honest, if you were buying every generation, there's a hell of a lot to be disappointed by, lately.
well looks like stim is crap...https://www.techpowerup.com/248595/...rs-will-run-hot-even-with-custom-watercooling
plsz intel stop soldering just for the sake of it...
Perhaps some are disappointed. I've enjoy all these processors since Ivybridge days. The 4770K > 4790K was great Improved stability & extra capacitors fitted underneath the processor.
It's a marvel all the new tech & really enjoy overclocking the latest Intel processors.
These 9900K will be the peak on Skylake/ Coffeelake type manufacture. Expect the samples will all perform very close.
Lets face it ... 8 cores on 53x multi watercooled is gonna crush some 3D benchmarks.
9700K no HT this seems to be the good value.
9600K now what's this? 6 core working from a 8 core processor? Yeah I don't know if I'd go near this ... sounds like 8600K to me, no disabled cores
Prime95 though 1.3v ... what cooling? what ambient temp? Average users will not stress test. The real test will be in a gamers pc case with hot gpu's heating it up
For sure they'll cook, soldered or not. 8 cores at high clocks/volts.... it's a given.
I kinda like the paste, makes em easy to delid. But solder will help the ln2 benchers save time and make life easier on the vast majority of users who don't want to pull the top off.
Custom loop apparently. But shitty Gigabyte board.
it says they use a custom loop. Games like AC odyssey can easily stress ur cpu to prime 95 levels..
We'll I hope they'd use a minimum 360 rad & have it in an air conditioned room
Yep, as that game uses avx extensions.
Would a better board result in lower temps from the CPU, though?
It would if the quality of power was better, and you could control the voltage more granularly.
Most likely, yes! One of the things that Steve from GN was complaining about with Gigabyte mobos is that you have no idea how much voltage you are actually delivering to the CPU. Monitoring and power delivery were both sub-par.