Z390chipset, i9 9900k i79700k and i5

Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by kot0005, Jun 28, 2018.

  1. im late

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    I also agree with this use case. Multi tasker can be
    Too early to tell mate as they are all very new boards, but if we can base off past history, gene would produce better results. Compare the actual technical aspects of power delivery on both boards and compare the specific overclocking features/settings in the bios and you will find the gene is better for that.

    Really any of the decent top tier boards can do 5, what you really should be focusing on is:

    - is your cooling up to scratch?
    - expect the silicon lottery.

    1. 24/7 at 5ghz on all cores is going to need more than a simple AIO, custom cooling all the way. If my CPU goes over 50 Deg on a hot day then that is too hot for me.

    2. Silicon lottery is just that, a lottery, hope for your sake you win it.
     
  2. WabbitHuntn

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    If you're going ASUS I would not go any cheaper than that.
     
  3. shane41

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    Ridiculous amount of heat & extra volts. Disable HT when I'm pushing can save easy 0.06v

    I'm sick of new & shiny :tired: Burning cash right there.
    Just me, I'd opt for a s/h z370 & 8700K 8086K offered in the for sale forum. :D These 9 series 9700K 9600K don't float my boat with disabled shit. Just another gimped processor wintel can segment us with
     
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    Just curious - does anyone have the 3D mark CPU scores for the 9700K vs 9900K? Would be good to see the difference hyperthreading has in benchmarks.
     
  5. Sunder

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    I like this site:

    https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-9700K/4028vs4030

    I'm surprised at how much difference HT makes.

    It also seems to confirm the suspicion that no HT improves overclocking single thread, probably better temps.

    Edit: Sorry, I didn't see that you were specific about 3D Mark. Apologies if the benchmark I listed are not relevant.
     
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  6. Inconceivable

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    https://www.techspot.com/review/1730-intel-core-i9-9900k-core-i7-9700k/page4.html

    While not 3D mark, these are pretty good gaming benches with a 2080ti so that the risk of GPU bottlenecking is minimised
    The tl;dr is that if you are gaming at 1440p or below you can get better FPS with a 9900k over the 9700k (but both do very huge fps anyway)
    If you are gaming at 4k you will bottleneck on the GPU so it doesn't make a huge difference
    It's hard to say the extra $300 is worth it... if you are playing competitive FPS at 1080p it might be
    And of course as usual with gaming the GPU matters more than the CPU most of the time
    Since I game at 4k because I'm a filthy casual that just wants nice looking games, the 9700k is fine for me, I wouldn't get much out of the 9900k, but YMMV
     
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    ...the cpu makers are charging a significant premium for hyperthreading.
     
  8. Inconceivable

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    There's no doubt about that... $300 extra for HT, slightly higher clocks and an extra 4MB of cache. That's not chump change! If I understand correctly, the 9700K is just a downbinned 9900K anyway... the same chip with some stuff turned off. So somewhere in a semiconductor factory there's a machine deciding some chips should cost $300 more, I guess.

    My 9700K has shipped from Megabuy anyway so here's hoping it'll arrive within 48 hours and I can power on my new PC.
     
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    has anyone checked gaming temps of 9900k yet ?
    AC:odyssey and the EA titles.
     
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    oooo i got a tracking number from PCCG, looks like my one came in!
    hope i get it by friday as i have a day off
     
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    Nice. I ordered one late Thu night from MWAVE and it came in yesterday. Got my Asus Hero WiFi from Computer alliance today. Just need a new AIO and I'm set.
     
  12. Inconceivable

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    Well my 9700k has arrived so I've managed to install it and get the thing to POST

    I'll update when I have some temps and overclocking info, using a graphite pad and a H115i

    In the meantime here's a video to support my cognitive bias

     
  13. WabbitHuntn

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    Got my 9900k today and have it up and running now
     
  14. Inconceivable

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    Ok so I have my 9700k running... I got 1632 on Cinebench with all cores @5GHz (1.30V), 3200MHz RAM (XMP II), according to HWinfo max temp was 73C with the graphite thermal pad and the H115i, on a Maximus XI Hero

    Other settings were fairly stock

    I don't have a GPU installed, running on onboard graphics at the moment which may skew the results. Still, interesting preliminary info. 9900k's should outscore me at stock because of HT, but real world benchmarks are a different playground!
     
  15. shane41

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    Like a regular 8700K there mostly Auto. No, iGpu just adds a little heat
     
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    For gamers is not a good source...they make ridic benchmarks where you get 30fps from 4000mhz memory at 4k when it should be gpu bound with minimal perf..
     
  17. Dominic Redigolo

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    CenterCom has 9900k stock as of 2 minutes ago...ordered one last night and rang thismorning to confirm they were in stock. Will cancel PCCG order as their eta is still mid to late Nov as of monday
     
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    Still waiting for Scorptec, supposedly they are getting some tomorrow.
     
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    I'm hoping to see a little drop in price for 9700k before the xmas but for now 9600k pretty sweet for my games
     
  20. WabbitHuntn

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    Ho Ho Ho. Goodluck!
     

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